sumoboulder said:
Would it be better to go with an AMD CPU around the same price? and for the cpu cooler i might go a bit over price for, a radiator for the front or the back which radiators would be the best?
Once we get to i5 price territory there isn't much advantage to AMD CPUs unless you need an IOMMU and ECC memory support. If you don't know what these are, then you don't need them. The only other reason would be to satisfy a novelty or brand preference. The IPC of a non-HTed Haswell core (like those found on an i5) is comparable to a PileDriver module. This means that the PD module is only ever as fast as the haswell core when the workload presents as 2 or more threads per module. In any case where the workload presents as 1 thread per core vs 1 thread per module, the haswell core is up to ~75% faster per clock. Since real world single client workloads rarely scale to 8 or more threads really well, the i5 tends to be the better performing CPU for most users.
Real-time workloads scale better with per-core performance then with core count. If you intend to use this to play games, the i5 is the superior CPU. Typically we see stock clocked i5's delivering gaming performance comparable to 8 core FX chips clocked in the 4.4-5+ghz range. In games that do not offer any useful scaling beyond 4 cores (that's most games), an i5-4590 is ~50% faster than an FX-8350. In many games, this discrepancy is irrelevant as both CPUs will manage >60FPS regardless, but it seems like popular games are always compute intensive (multiplayer, MMORPGs, strategy games etc), such that the difference in performance between the i5 and FX-83XX options does manifest as noteworthy improvement in performance.
There is no benefit to a pumped-liquid/radiator cooler for a stock clocked i5. In fact, anything larger than a "90mm" heatpipe cooler is going to be largely a waste on such a chip, as any decent heatpipe cooler with 3x6mm heatpipes or better, and a 90mm fan, will keep a stock clocked haswell chip running well below thermal margins with low fan speeds. A cheap ($50 class) AIOCLC is just asking for unnecessary drawbacks, like pump noise, more points of failure, more difficult mounting, etc.
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Having said all that, if you want to entertain a path of doing something different for the sake of doing something different, an overclocked FX-6300 can have a similar or lower implementation cost than an i5-4590. When overclocked, the FX-6300 will still come up short of the i5's raw per-core performance by ~30% or so, however, if we then switch to an nvidia GPU instead of an AMD GPU, we can reduce the compute overhead in DX11 games by ~20%, which can put the FX-6300 in the same ballpark of gaming performance as the i5-4590 + GCN GPU..
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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Silverstone SST-HE01 171.0 CFM Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($83.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $792.89
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