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Is there a better $750 PC build than this?

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October 10, 2014 8:01:39 PM

Hello!
I was wondering if there was a better pc build than this for about the same price?
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/YouyouDegh/saved/DBDJ7P
And is there a good cpu cooler for the rosewill line m case in this build for under $50.
Thanks.

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October 10, 2014 9:45:49 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer i11 74.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.49 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 270X 2GB IceQ X² Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $781.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-11 00:43 EDT-0400

Better CPU, better Motherboard, better memory kit (yes, I can explain why if you want), WAY better PSU, and better case. Assuming the budget is ~$800 with HSF, this comes in under budget and includes a great HSF for stock clocked chips. Very quiet.
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October 10, 2014 9:50:20 PM

Try this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($186.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill LINE-M-A MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.32 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($50.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $743.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-11 00:50 EDT-0400
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October 10, 2014 9:51:27 PM

Another case I'd recommend is the Corsair 200r which is roomy, and a H97 ATX mobo (gigabyte sniper) ONLY if you decide to get the 200r.
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October 10, 2014 11:47:46 PM

mdocod said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer i11 74.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.49 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 270X 2GB IceQ X² Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $781.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-11 00:43 EDT-0400

Better CPU, better Motherboard, better memory kit (yes, I can explain why if you want), WAY better PSU, and better case. Assuming the budget is ~$800 with HSF, this comes in under budget and includes a great HSF for stock clocked chips. Very quiet.

Would it be better to go with an AMD CPU around the same price? and for the cpu cooler i might go a bit over price for, a radiator for the front or the back which radiators would be the best?
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October 11, 2014 12:07:39 AM

Hows this?
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xHRzHx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xHRzHx/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.95 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($118.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($156.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $762.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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October 11, 2014 1:49:08 AM

sumoboulder said:

Would it be better to go with an AMD CPU around the same price? and for the cpu cooler i might go a bit over price for, a radiator for the front or the back which radiators would be the best?


Once we get to i5 price territory there isn't much advantage to AMD CPUs unless you need an IOMMU and ECC memory support. If you don't know what these are, then you don't need them. The only other reason would be to satisfy a novelty or brand preference. The IPC of a non-HTed Haswell core (like those found on an i5) is comparable to a PileDriver module. This means that the PD module is only ever as fast as the haswell core when the workload presents as 2 or more threads per module. In any case where the workload presents as 1 thread per core vs 1 thread per module, the haswell core is up to ~75% faster per clock. Since real world single client workloads rarely scale to 8 or more threads really well, the i5 tends to be the better performing CPU for most users.

Real-time workloads scale better with per-core performance then with core count. If you intend to use this to play games, the i5 is the superior CPU. Typically we see stock clocked i5's delivering gaming performance comparable to 8 core FX chips clocked in the 4.4-5+ghz range. In games that do not offer any useful scaling beyond 4 cores (that's most games), an i5-4590 is ~50% faster than an FX-8350. In many games, this discrepancy is irrelevant as both CPUs will manage >60FPS regardless, but it seems like popular games are always compute intensive (multiplayer, MMORPGs, strategy games etc), such that the difference in performance between the i5 and FX-83XX options does manifest as noteworthy improvement in performance.

There is no benefit to a pumped-liquid/radiator cooler for a stock clocked i5. In fact, anything larger than a "90mm" heatpipe cooler is going to be largely a waste on such a chip, as any decent heatpipe cooler with 3x6mm heatpipes or better, and a 90mm fan, will keep a stock clocked haswell chip running well below thermal margins with low fan speeds. A cheap ($50 class) AIOCLC is just asking for unnecessary drawbacks, like pump noise, more points of failure, more difficult mounting, etc.

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Having said all that, if you want to entertain a path of doing something different for the sake of doing something different, an overclocked FX-6300 can have a similar or lower implementation cost than an i5-4590. When overclocked, the FX-6300 will still come up short of the i5's raw per-core performance by ~30% or so, however, if we then switch to an nvidia GPU instead of an AMD GPU, we can reduce the compute overhead in DX11 games by ~20%, which can put the FX-6300 in the same ballpark of gaming performance as the i5-4590 + GCN GPU..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Silverstone SST-HE01 171.0 CFM Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($83.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $792.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-11 04:48 EDT-0400
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October 11, 2014 2:12:27 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($181.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($48.99 @ Mwave)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $741.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-11 05:12 EDT-0400
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