PSU Faulty or something else?
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October 11, 2014 5:05:16 AM
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Over the past 2-3 days, my system just turns off while playing watch dogs. It is completely random and has happened 2 times now. Although I have only noticed it with watch dogs, I am 98% sure that it is not a Watch dogs fault and it is a hardware issue.
(The specs are in the bottom right corner.)
Here is what I noticed:
I have made no hardware or software changes and the system has been working perfect so far.
Thanks in advance for all your help - I wasn't able to figure this one out myself.
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P.S System is 1.5 yrs old now so all parts still under manufacturer warranty.
Over the past 2-3 days, my system just turns off while playing watch dogs. It is completely random and has happened 2 times now. Although I have only noticed it with watch dogs, I am 98% sure that it is not a Watch dogs fault and it is a hardware issue.
(The specs are in the bottom right corner.)
Here is what I noticed:
-While playing, when under load, my system just turns off without warning
- However long I wait, I cannot turn my system back on by pressing power switch. Therefore, it is not a overheating issue.
-If I flick the PSU switch off and then on again, my system powers on just fine and I am back to normal.
THEREFORE, I think it may be a PSU fault? Why should flicking the switch make it turn on ? Could it be motherboard as well - since flicking switch drains all the power out?
I have made no hardware or software changes and the system has been working perfect so far.
Thanks in advance for all your help - I wasn't able to figure this one out myself.
!P.S System is 1.5 yrs old now so all parts still under manufacturer warranty.
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Run a stress test on both your CPU and GPU, monitor the thermals while doing so. Overheating is a common cause of shutdowns while doing intensive things with your machine. Prime95 for the CPU, MSI Kombustor or similar for the GPU. Use Core temp, Real Temp or open hardware monitor to view the thermals.
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October 11, 2014 5:15:11 AM
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October 11, 2014 5:23:42 AM
zink1701 said:
Run a stress test on both your CPU and GPU, monitor the thermals while doing so. Overheating is a common cause of shutdowns while doing intensive things with your machine. Prime95 for the CPU, MSI Kombustor or similar for the GPU. Use Core temp, Real Temp or open hardware monitor to view the thermals.Thanks will do that. however, I doubt its an overheating issue because like I said, I can turn the system straight back on and when I check temps, they are all acceptable.
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October 11, 2014 5:23:57 AM
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October 11, 2014 5:24:50 AM
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October 11, 2014 5:26:38 AM
tambeshakunt said:
rolli59 said:
Looks like a failing PSU. Temp problems would mean thermal throttle not shut down.hmm thought so. However, when I check voltages, they are all seeming to be in the acceptable range. Still can be a psu fault?
I will be contacting Corsair anyway, to see what they say.
Although a budget unit it has an internal protection for multiple things and that you have to flip the switch points to one of them tripping and needing reset.
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October 11, 2014 5:32:21 AM
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October 11, 2014 5:47:08 AM
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October 11, 2014 5:48:50 AM
bignastyid said:
tambeshakunt said:
huilun02 said:
What PSU are you using? You might want to ditch a crappy PSU even if its not the cause of your problems.It is the Corsair CX600.
The cheap capacitors are probably giving out. Had 4 CX's that did the same thing.
I see. By 'same thing' are you referring to the need to flick the switch on and off?
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October 11, 2014 5:52:24 AM
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October 11, 2014 5:57:38 AM
tambeshakunt said:
bignastyid said:
tambeshakunt said:
huilun02 said:
What PSU are you using? You might want to ditch a crappy PSU even if its not the cause of your problems.It is the Corsair CX600.
The cheap capacitors are probably giving out. Had 4 CX's that did the same thing.
I see. By 'same thing' are you referring to the need to flick the switch on and off?
I was referring more to the shutdown problem.
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October 11, 2014 5:59:23 AM
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October 11, 2014 6:13:59 AM
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October 11, 2014 6:21:42 AM
tambeshakunt said:
One more thing....I have also been playing Battlefield 4 and nothing has happened while playing that ; only every happened with watch dogs. Is this just a matter of chance do you guys think or is it because watch dogs puts more load on the PSU??
thanks for all the help so far.
That would be the only explanation.
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October 11, 2014 6:36:04 AM
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October 11, 2014 7:02:19 AM
Thanks very much SR71. Looks like everyone is agreeing with my original thought - faulty PSU. I have already raised a support ticket with corsair for this, should reply within a day or two.
BTW, are there are software programs that any of you guys recommend that can simulate the load of the PSU, just so I can make 100% it is a PSU problem and not watch dogs or anything to with software.
Thanks once again!
BTW, are there are software programs that any of you guys recommend that can simulate the load of the PSU, just so I can make 100% it is a PSU problem and not watch dogs or anything to with software.
Thanks once again!
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October 11, 2014 7:14:16 AM
Furmark stresses the GPU with massive loads. http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/furmark.html
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October 11, 2014 7:37:11 AM
Yes I already tried furmark but only for a short while. Will give it a go for atleast 20-30 mins or so.
Also, what PSU do you think I should get to replace this? I am looking for 750W since I might overclock and/or crossfire another 7970. Should I go for the XFX Pro 750W? I want the cheapest, but most reliable option. 80+ bronze or silver are ok too, gold is not a must.
Also, what PSU do you think I should get to replace this? I am looking for 750W since I might overclock and/or crossfire another 7970. Should I go for the XFX Pro 750W? I want the cheapest, but most reliable option. 80+ bronze or silver are ok too, gold is not a must.
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October 11, 2014 7:44:15 AM
Made by the best Super Flower.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $79.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $79.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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October 11, 2014 7:44:22 AM
Crossfire and overclocking you'd want an 850w PSU.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b2085...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850bbef...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b2085...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850bbef...
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October 11, 2014 9:20:54 AM
My choice on price alone XFX 850 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r7-240-and-2...
Efficiency and modular Rosewill great price http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-caps...
Efficiency and modular Rosewill great price http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-caps...
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October 12, 2014 6:43:29 AM
Im in the UK but thanks for all the recommendations so far anyway....
Are you guys sure a 750W like this won't do? I won't overclock too much (maybe up to 3.8 or 4.0Ghz) and I may only add one r9 280x/7970 in the future. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KM821KC/?tag=pcp0f-21
Otherwise, how about this 850W? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0045L4BNW/?tag=pcp0f-21
Are you guys sure a 750W like this won't do? I won't overclock too much (maybe up to 3.8 or 4.0Ghz) and I may only add one r9 280x/7970 in the future. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KM821KC/?tag=pcp0f-21
Otherwise, how about this 850W? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0045L4BNW/?tag=pcp0f-21
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October 12, 2014 6:50:40 AM
The XFX850 cheaper here http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850x...
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October 12, 2014 6:51:49 AM
Here one of the best http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g2...
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October 12, 2014 7:06:20 AM
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The XFX850 cheaper here http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850x...Yeah I saw that but when I click the link to 'more computers' website, it has a different model with a rather ugly green fan. Would like to avoid that !
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October 12, 2014 7:06:54 AM
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Here one of the best http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g2...Think that may be a little too expensive for me.
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October 12, 2014 8:22:55 AM
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October 12, 2014 8:34:41 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-Supernova-850W-Power-Suppl...
EVGA B2 850W Power Supply Unit for PC
Made by Super Flower.
EVGA B2 850W Power Supply Unit for PC
Made by Super Flower.
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October 12, 2014 8:54:25 AM
SR-71 Blackbird said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-Supernova-850W-Power-Suppl...EVGA B2 850W Power Supply Unit for PC
Made by Super Flower.
Thanks for that. What would you say about the shutdown at 100% load?
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October 12, 2014 8:56:17 AM
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October 12, 2014 8:57:44 AM
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October 12, 2014 9:02:39 AM
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October 12, 2014 9:18:30 AM
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October 12, 2014 9:19:53 AM
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October 14, 2014 12:53:08 PM
Ok guys, a major twist in the story and bad news
Basically, got the new PSU today, installed it booted up and everything was normal.
Then I decided to try out furmark again...........
At 100% load nothing happened for about 3-5 seconds and then bam. A white artifact and the system powers off. Now I can't even turn the system on. Tried everything inc clear CMOS, reset of PSU etc.... The motherboard has the power LED on but thats all. NO POWER ON
My immediate thought was GPU. So I took the GPU out and tried powering system on without it. Guess what....works fine. Still I wasn't convinced so I installed this 7970 into another system and installed another 6450 into mine to test. It confirmed the 7970 was faulty - no power on.
Strange thing is .... if I install the GPU without the PCIe power plugged in then the system boots , shows missing video card (theres no display) and the fans on the GPU spin. ~ This further clarifies that the GPU is at fault.
My 7970 is only about 10 months old now and now I am going to have to RMA this.
So you guys agree its a GPU thing ?
Guess I didn't need a new PSU after all.
Basically, got the new PSU today, installed it booted up and everything was normal.
Then I decided to try out furmark again...........
At 100% load nothing happened for about 3-5 seconds and then bam. A white artifact and the system powers off. Now I can't even turn the system on. Tried everything inc clear CMOS, reset of PSU etc.... The motherboard has the power LED on but thats all. NO POWER ON
My immediate thought was GPU. So I took the GPU out and tried powering system on without it. Guess what....works fine. Still I wasn't convinced so I installed this 7970 into another system and installed another 6450 into mine to test. It confirmed the 7970 was faulty - no power on.
Strange thing is .... if I install the GPU without the PCIe power plugged in then the system boots , shows missing video card (theres no display) and the fans on the GPU spin. ~ This further clarifies that the GPU is at fault.
My 7970 is only about 10 months old now and now I am going to have to RMA this.
So you guys agree its a GPU thing ?
Guess I didn't need a new PSU after all.
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October 14, 2014 12:56:30 PM
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October 14, 2014 1:00:56 PM
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October 14, 2014 3:50:20 PM
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October 15, 2014 10:36:52 AM
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October 15, 2014 11:46:15 AM
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Interesting. So do you feel this isn't even a GPU issue ( I have already sent my GPU off
)??Not too sure if its 'shorted out'....my gut feeling is that is it something to do with the VRMs.
Also, do you think I should blame Corsair for this
It is GPU issue now for sure and is a short of some kind whether it is the VRM's on the card or not. I am not sure if it is the CX fault or not but one thing for sure is that its internal protection was tripping whether it was short or overvoltage protection.
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October 16, 2014 9:38:35 AM
Ok well I have already sent back my 7970.
Since the 7970 is now phased out for the 280x which is the direct replacement (rebranded 7970), I think the retailer will offer me a 280x or a refund of the money £220 that I originally paid for the 7970.
If I take the refund what card do you guys think I should get?
- A good R9 280X?
- A GTX 780 - Should I switch to green team and will this bottleneck fx 6300 (I have mixed feelings on this)
- something else?
Obviously I want the new card to be equivalent or better than the 7970 and considering the games I play, I think there is a fair balance between AMD and nvidia optimisation so I would say it doesn't really matter. Just thought will give nvidia a go
Thanks for the help!
Since the 7970 is now phased out for the 280x which is the direct replacement (rebranded 7970), I think the retailer will offer me a 280x or a refund of the money £220 that I originally paid for the 7970.
If I take the refund what card do you guys think I should get?
- A good R9 280X?
- A GTX 780 - Should I switch to green team and will this bottleneck fx 6300 (I have mixed feelings on this)
- something else?
Obviously I want the new card to be equivalent or better than the 7970 and considering the games I play, I think there is a fair balance between AMD and nvidia optimisation so I would say it doesn't really matter. Just thought will give nvidia a go
Thanks for the help!
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