What memory to choose for i5 and h97 system.

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Hello people,
I've been a little confused,,,,
I'm making a new system and could not find out what memory suits me the best,
My new system will have an

Asus H97 pro gamer
specs : http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H97PRO_GAMER/specifications
intel's i5 4590
specs: http://ark.intel.com/products/80815/Intel-Core-i5-4590-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

Now... both cpu and motherboard support 1333 and 1600 mhz ddr3, my questions are simple

1. Is a higher mhz (1866-2133) ddr3 any better from 1600 mhz? will even work at higher that 1600 speeds? The web says 1600mhz are not enough,,, but do they mean that are not enought for an overclocked high end system?

2. which ddr3 products are suitable for my cpu and MB? are Corsair vengeance or kingston beast one of the best options?

3. Except the cpu which is locked, can i overclock ram, or i dont know motherboard speeds?

please help me, what ddr3 to choose, i am looking for a 2x4 dual channel memory kit, with a budget of around 80-110 euro,
mostly the system will be used for video games,,,

thank you in advance people
 
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nitrium thanks a lot for that article, i just finished reading it, but still even if i have a better picture of the whole thing , cannot decide!

i can get a < G.SKILL F3-2400C10D-8GTX 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200 2400MHZ TRIDENTX DUAL CHANNEL KIT > for just 84 euro!
is it my best choice, for example?
 
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Yeah that will work just fine (personally I'd go for something cheaper - e.g. DDR3 1866 CL9 - which hits the sweet spot for price vs performance). Like I said, memory speed doesn't really make all that much difference for modern PC performance, ~2 - 5% maybe for most tasks. You're almost always better off getting cheaper RAM and putting the money saved toward a faster GPU.

 
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well the cheapest cl9 1866 will be 3,8 euro less,(and a 1866 cl10 for 9 euro less) and for that money i prefer the colour of the tridentx!

What about the compability of 4th generation cpu? like psu's,,, are any 4th gen ddr3 too?

Asus states clear that : Due to Intel® chipset limitation, DDR3 1600 MHz and higher memory modules on XMP mode will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR3 1600 Mhz.
so i gues i need an z97 motherboard in order to run at higher than 1600mhz....
p.s. i am still wondering if a locked cpu and an h97 chip set board will run ddr3 at 2400mhz!!!
 
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Well still doing web-searching, seems that, H97 chipset runs at maximum of 1600 mhz, no matter what, z97 chipset can of course run higher ram speed .....
every h97 chipset states :
Due to Intel® chipset limitation, DDR3 1600 MHz and higher memory modules on XMP mode will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR3 1600 Mhz.
and all the z97 chipset state that can run up to 3200 mhz....
 
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Yeah not sure about your particular motherboard, but faster RAM can be run at lower clock speeds. I'm running 1866MHz DDR3 in an old P55 system (i5 760, LGA1156) that is specced to run up to 1333MHz. Works just fine and at 1866 MHz using the XMP Profile 2 (which surprised me). Strange that your much newer mobo won't allow memory to run at full speed using XMP, but ASUS seems to be very clear about it so I guess not. Makes choosing RAM much easier though: just get DDR3 1600MHz stuff with the lowest possible latency (probably CL7 or 8).
 
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Well that's a nice choice but I think that only Z87 or z97 can run higher than 1600mhz.... So either I buy 1600MHz0with low cl (cl 7 goes for 115 euro!! Cl8 for 97 and cl 9 for 87 cl 10 is the cheapest for 78 euro...) or get an z97 ranger mb for 50 more euro so I can run tridenX 2400!!
H97 has its limitation.... Difficult to find the best overal ,choice
 
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The issue here of what speed RAM it "can handle" has absolutely NOTHING to do with the CPU, but with the limitations Intel has placed on H97 chipset found on the motherboard of the OP that won't allow for RAM faster than 1600 MHz.
 
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Responded to the question of can it handle 1866 - maybe I misread, but was sounding like the a Z97 might be in consideration for higher DRAM freqs and if it does go to a Z97, then very much so the CPU is the determining factor, the Z97s can handle 3000+ but this particular CPU can't
 
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thank you for your time helping me!!!
i decided to go for an z97 motherboard and a cheap trident x 2400 cl10 2x4 gb kit!
now i will have to reconsider the cpu i will buy,
in terms of budget i will have to go with the cheapest! 4460! will be able to take advantage of the faster memory?

i want to go for an 4690 or 4690k but i will need much more money, whcih at the point i cannot give,(i want also keyboard m.2 ssd and hdd)
but next year i might get a powerfull broadwell , so i guess for the time i 4460? will be any good?
 
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thank you both nitrium ans tradesman for all that help
got
G.SKILL F3-2400C10D-8GTX 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200 2400MHZ TRIDENTX DUAL CHANNEL KIT

along with a ASUS MAXIMUS VII RANGER & INTEL CORE I5-4460 3.20GHZ LGA1150
 
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