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October 11, 2014 7:33:34 PM

Any reason that EVERY 780ti/780/770 has like 5 stars, yet there are tons of reviews in there complaining about RMA's and driver issue. Ton's of 1-3 star reviews, but still holds 5 stars, lamost every model
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
And these cards have INSANE numbers of reviews? Is Nvidia pressuring them to review their cards or something? Nvidia and AMD sales are not that far apart
Then we get to AMD's R9 series, and almost all 290x/290/280x/270x have 4 or less eggs, many having 3...
My R9 290 Tri-X is of some of the first batch, and my card has NEVER had performance issues, not a single artifact, black screen, or other error.
My friend has a Powercolor R9 290 PCS+ and he hasn't had any hardware issues, just software issues that were his own fault.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
and there is like 50 reviews for some cards, and most only have like 10-20.
I KNOW they sell more than that.

So what's going on here?
My theory is that the only people reviewing AMD's are users who aren't smart enought to set their PC's up properly and mess up their performance, and Nvidia users have their GPU's pretty much set themselves up for them... and the Nvidia users are simple people and just hit 5 stars and say it runs their games over 60... (not being judgemental but EVERY friend I have with Nvidia just plugged their card in, and didn't touch it. Some have tons of issues for them, but they still reviewed 5 stars)

Trust me this is no fan war, but it is creating a VERY bad image for AMD cards when both competitors are neck and neck, and should be treated as such (well, until the 970/980 came out at least)
In fact the ONLY gpu I've had issues with was my Nvidia GT 640...

What's your theory?

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October 11, 2014 7:43:02 PM

Many NVidia users seem to think NVidia can do no wrong. I suspect there might be underreporting in the reviews.
That said some Radeon cards have been shipping with bad memory modules which leads to the artifacts/black screens etc.

They are still the minority but there is probably a slightly higher DOA rate. The good news is if you get a good one, the failure rate seems to be pretty nominal
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October 11, 2014 7:53:59 PM

smeezekitty said:
Many NVidia users seem to think NVidia can do no wrong.


The same can said of many a Radeon user about AMD.
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October 11, 2014 8:12:52 PM

smeezekitty said:
Many NVidia users seem to think NVidia can do no wrong. I suspect there might be underreporting in the reviews.
That said some Radeon cards have been shipping with bad memory modules which leads to the artifacts/black screens etc.

They are still the minority but there is probably a slightly higher DOA rate. The good news is if you get a good one, the failure rate seems to be pretty nominal


Last I heard, ATI's failure rate was 13%, and Nvidia's is around 9%.
R9 290's do have a higher percent, and some cards even had bad BIOS versions shipped with them. I know some people go to the ends of the earth, and the card still misbehaves but here, common example:

I have had 2 software issues, and both were fixed myself without raging on Newegg's reviews with 1-stars:
1. Youtube/twotch causing BSOD. Fix: update google chrome, Manually install latest Flash Player and Shockwave player.
2. Just this week, installing Driver 14.9, I had my Display Driver Crash and it blackscreened for I think the second time in the last 9 months I've owned this card. It repeatedly crashed the driver after going from 14.7 to 14.9 latest driver.
Fix: Updated my Mobo BIOS... SEriously... that was it, took 10 minutes to fix permanently...

That being said, for some reason over 6 months Me and my friend had an 8350 and it would get low fps, like 40-80 in BF4. I tried swapping out hardware, drivers, windows installs, Overclocking the CPU, better cooling, unparking cores, tweaks and quickfixes, nothing helped. GPUI usage would drop and so would FPS.
Only fix was getting the 4790k, and now all games run perfect and GPU is always 100% used. Never saw the issue again since.
My friend still has his 8350 and has the same seemingly "bottleneck"
Here, watch mine in action, no reason it should have done this to my 290, but not to people's 780's: (sorry for shaky footage, recorded on a Samsung S5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9dSLOElX4&list=UU4WCR...

Yet, my other friend with an 8350 and 780 and everyone else on the internet with a this combo has little issue running 60+ (or maybe the Nvidia users just don't notice they bottlenecked) in games I bottled in. Many signs pointed to Nvidia's drivers just cooperating better with FX 8-cores...
Radeons are just more finicky cards and instead of fixing the issues, people give bad reviews.

So I think its a mix of Radeon users not setting their PC's up right/not maintaining them, and another Mix of Nvidia cards just usually working under most software configurations. Also, R9 290's did have a failure rate, but I see many users making MULTIPLE 1 Star Review and using the reviews section as a forum to get help... How fair is that? why is that unregulated?
Meanwhile, a lot of typical simple Nvidia reviewer: it's fast, plays my games over 60fps. 5 stars. (not an exaggeration, just read some of them all)

Take away from this wall of text what you will.
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October 11, 2014 8:30:25 PM

Mousemonkey said:
smeezekitty said:
Many NVidia users seem to think NVidia can do no wrong.


The same can said of many a Radeon user about AMD.


And what bothers me the most is idots like this:
"getting you Framerates around 80-120 on ULTRA settings in games like Battlefield 4"
"runs 90 fps Ultra in BF4"
"Can run most games at max settings at 2560x1440" (some, not most...would max BF4 30-50fps)
"Pros: It runs games well"
These were all quotes on one page for a GTX 770 Windforce:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Trust me... the 770 get about 50-80fps at best , hovering in the 60's and mid 70's, dipping into the 50's.
http://youtu.be/69soOExekRM?t=2m43s (someone testing it just this month, and this is among the highest clocked 770)
a 780ti can hold 90-120, maybe...
my r9 290 holds about 70-100, so...
Absolute imbeciles... I HOPE they are on 720p monitors, those are just lies.

Yet look at all those 1-3 star reviews from people who know what they're talking about on that card, same failures the R9 series has...

Ugh, mad that AMD never gets their Credit. Maybe its just cause Nvidia users flaunt their ownership more than AMD users and that's why there are less reviews...

Okay maye I'm starting a flame war now :/ 
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October 11, 2014 9:12:06 PM

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That being said, for some reason over 6 months Me and my friend had an 8350 and it would get low fps, like 40-80 in BF4. I tried swapping out hardware, drivers, windows installs, Overclocking the CPU, better cooling, unparking cores, tweaks and quickfixes, nothing helped. GPUI usage would drop and so would FPS.
Only fix was getting the 4790k, and now all games run perfect and GPU is always 100% used. Never saw the issue again since.
My friend still has his 8350 and has the same seemingly "bottleneck"


Fact. AMD is now way behind in CPUs compared to Intel. I am not being a fanboy.
I would love if AMD would catch up but so far their single core performance has a lot to be desire
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October 11, 2014 9:18:36 PM

smeezekitty said:
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That being said, for some reason over 6 months Me and my friend had an 8350 and it would get low fps, like 40-80 in BF4. I tried swapping out hardware, drivers, windows installs, Overclocking the CPU, better cooling, unparking cores, tweaks and quickfixes, nothing helped. GPUI usage would drop and so would FPS.
Only fix was getting the 4790k, and now all games run perfect and GPU is always 100% used. Never saw the issue again since.
My friend still has his 8350 and has the same seemingly "bottleneck"


Fact. AMD is now way behind in CPUs compared to Intel. I am not being a fanboy.
I would love if AMD would catch up but so far their single core performance has a lot to be desire


Yeah, I found out the hard way...
So would a second 290 be a good option guys, or should I wait and get a 390/390x. I want to upgrade to 1440p 120hz or 4k 60hz as soon as it becomes affordable
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October 11, 2014 10:15:15 PM

Well a second 290 would probably be a fairly cheap upgrade path. It would drive 1440p but not necessarily at 120 FPS
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