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October 12, 2014 11:42:29 AM

Hey, so this is my first ever build and i don't want to spend a lot of money and then realize it is rubbish so please be critical in your responses. Price is a problem so no suggestions that will make me spend like £50 more, thanks.

I do not plan to overclock but may in the future if i see my parts not performing in the way i anticipated!

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Vrt9RB

It is not necessarily a gaming pc, but i will play games like cs go, minecraft, LoL and scary games. i know my gpu is a bit overkill but i am told i gives better bank for buck!

I multitask a lot and usually have about 5 windows open at one time :) 

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October 12, 2014 11:45:49 AM

Get low profile RAM so you have so cooler interference issues.

Everything else looks great.
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October 12, 2014 11:54:22 AM

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October 12, 2014 11:56:02 AM

I would not really suggest a 270x with an unlocked i5. Poor use of money. that money would be WAY better spent on a better GPU.

Also, that EVGa is a tier 3 PSU.
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October 12, 2014 11:58:08 AM

tiny voices said:
I would not really suggest a 270x with an unlocked i5. Poor use of money. that money would be WAY better spent on a better GPU.

Also, that EVGa is a tier 3 PSU.


are you talking to me or the other reply? and does getting Low profile ram make a massive difference because i dont have a massive budget and i am already way over what i intended on on spending and it like £20 more?
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October 12, 2014 11:58:59 AM

I am talking to the other guy who posted a build.

Low profile RAM should be cheaper or cost the same.
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October 13, 2014 9:02:46 AM

Low-profile RAM isn't needed as the fan clips on the 212 EVO can be slid up 10-20 mm to allow for tall heatspreaders.
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October 13, 2014 9:08:42 AM

But tall heat spreaders offer NOTHING besides looking goofy and blocking coolers.

ALWAYS buy low profile RAM. ALWAYS. Sliding the fan up will decrease performance and I know that you might not even have enough room to slide it up 20mm in that case.

OP, just get low profile RAM. it will save SO MANY headaches.
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October 13, 2014 9:13:12 AM

Heatspreaders actually look kinda cool...
Besides, RAM like G.SKILL Trident X have removable heatspreaders (it's probably more expensive, but hey, you get a higher frequency)...
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October 13, 2014 9:16:37 AM

I would just go with this. No need to overclock, worry about tall heatsinks or aftermarket coolers.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£65.40 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston Fury White Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£59.94 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.50 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£124.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case (£63.52 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.93 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.09 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.99 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor (£113.09 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £723.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 17:15 BST+0100
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October 13, 2014 10:05:00 AM

+1 go with that.
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October 13, 2014 10:12:08 AM

Maybe a strong i3 with an R9 280?
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October 13, 2014 12:34:40 PM

I would rather have the i5 and 270x. He said it will not necessarily be a gaming PC but just a normal PC to play some games sometimes. In this case the i5 + 270x is 100% the way to go.
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October 13, 2014 12:35:58 PM

Well, since you don't know what OP will be mainly doing, let's ask.
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October 13, 2014 12:37:47 PM

He said it in the first post.

He will be doing alot of multitasking and playing SOME games. The i5 is the way to go 100%.
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October 13, 2014 12:40:50 PM

Haha, missed that. I specifically meant what PROGRAMS OP will be using. If it's mainly Chrome and stuff like that, an i3 will be fine.
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October 13, 2014 12:45:41 PM

But he doesn't need a 280. Thats the point. it is only a TINY bit better than a 270x, where as the i3 is a LARGE drop from the i5. it makes no sense to get an i3 in OPs situations.
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October 13, 2014 12:52:09 PM

Right...
The 280 is actually better as it has more VRAM, more shading units, more TMUs, more compute units and a wider memory bus whereas the 270X only has higher clock speeds and pixel rate.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-280-vs-Radeon-R9-270X
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October 13, 2014 12:54:55 PM

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1043?vs=1332

not worth it for 3-12fps when OP isn't even going to game primarily. An i3 WILL hit him with multitasking and having alot of programs open.

OP, please get an i5 and a 270x. It really is 100% the best call for your situation.

Also just a side note that we do not use CPUboss or GPUboss here because they are horribly unreliable and give AWFUL inaccurate comparisons.
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October 13, 2014 12:59:29 PM

Whatever you say...
Actually, please, take a look:https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=147,167...
The cheapest 280 (MSI Twin Frozr) is 25 pounds more expensive than the cheapest 270X (Sapphire Dual-X).
I'm sure OP can afford the jump?

CPU/GPUBoss actually gives reliable specs (VRAM, TMU, shading units, etc), but as you said, maybe not comparisons.
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October 13, 2014 1:01:29 PM

Maybe he can or maybe he can't. Thats not for us to say, but in reality I suggest to OP he NEVER get an i3 just to bump up to the 280 for HIS situation.

GPUboss is fine for looking at specs but should NEVER be used for comparisons at all.
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October 13, 2014 1:03:17 PM

I meant get an i5 and a 280...
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October 13, 2014 1:04:00 PM

It would be 750 pounds instead of logainofhades' 725 pound build.
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October 13, 2014 1:08:27 PM

I know you did. I was saying that is fine, but if OP can't swing the money it is not worth going down to an i3 just to get the 280.
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October 13, 2014 1:16:29 PM

Yeah, I must agree.
If OP has the means, though, I'd say upgrade the CPU to a quad-core Xeon E3 with Hyper-Threading.
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October 13, 2014 1:18:00 PM

I would not even consider that. HUGE waste of money for his needs. no reason to do that at all.
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October 13, 2014 1:19:57 PM

Why not get Hyper-Threading and double the threads for ~20-30 pounds? More and more stuff are taking advantage of them right now...
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October 13, 2014 1:22:45 PM

We are already spending MORE than OP wants to for this setup. He will not need that stuff with anything he said he is doing.

At this point you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. OP will be perfectly good with the i5 and 270x, or 280. No need for the Xeon. It also has no integrated graphics which add another level of complexity in case a GPU goes bad or something that the average user doesn't need. OP has all the info he needs at this point to make an informed decision. We should leave it at that,.
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October 13, 2014 1:24:50 PM

Ahh, we actually are over OP's budget...
Sorry about that:( 
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October 13, 2014 2:24:31 PM

Did this argument between you guys even have a resolution? To me, it looked like you guys were arguing for the sake of arguing, not to actually help the OP.
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October 13, 2014 2:26:14 PM

I was trying to help...
The argument probably ended as I conceded.
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