Just a question on upgrading my graphics card.

GarrickLee · Oct 12, 2014

Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my PC, a HP Pavilion P7-1207: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c03134247

I'm looking to upgrade for a graphics card to upgrade, a EVGA GTX 650 t
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130900&cm_re=evga_gtx_650-_-14-130-900-_-Product

My first question is this, will the card fit into my motherboard? I fear the RAM slots are too close to the PCIE and may get in the way.

My second question is this, I currently am playing NBA 2K15 on this PC and average about 25 FPS, will it be worth it for me to upgrade this graphics card and get atleast 40+ FPS or a major performence upgrade?

Thank you

Cats869 · Oct 13, 2014

Looking at your motherboard, the graphics card won't interfere with the RAM slots, well unless you plan on changing the RAM frequently, then there may be a very very small issue but nothing that makes it huge.

The problem with your computer is more of the power supply. You will need a 6 pin PCIe connector for your garphics card and I'm not sure if OEM 300W power supplies have them. Also, 300W is a bit low. I know that 300W can support the graphics card you mentioned, there is a risk since OEM power supplies are usually not as good as the good brand power supplies. You might be able to get away with it but just keep in mind that there is a risk.

Your CPU appears to be an AMD A6 processor. Those processors aren't really powerful so you may run into small bottlenecks when playing at low resolutions and low graphic settings but I doubt you will be having your games set to that.

Since you don't seem to mind buying used/refurbished graphics cards, you may be able to find cheaper and possibly better graphics cards off of eBay.

Last time I checked, someone was selling a R9 280x for 160 dollars and that card is a beast.

If you're interested, I can help you find a decent used card for a decent price and hopefully a card that won't consume a lot of power.

GarrickLee · Oct 13, 2014

Thanks man, I planned on purchasing this because I went to EVGA Support, and they said my mobo might have compatibility issues with the next Maxwell architecture. I don't have the budget for that anyways...I'm not sure which Radeon cards I can use for my mobo. One last question, on my power supply there is a extra Molex connector, I plan on using that but what would the risks be if I use my current power supply? Will it fry my system or will my graphics card not work?

Thanks

GarrickLee · Oct 13, 2014

Cats869 :

Looking at your motherboard, the graphics card won't interfere with the RAM slots, well unless you plan on changing the RAM frequently, then there may be a very very small issue but nothing that makes it huge.

The problem with your computer is more of the power supply. You will need a 6 pin PCIe connector for your garphics card and I'm not sure if OEM 300W power supplies have them. Also, 300W is a bit low. I know that 300W can support the graphics card you mentioned, there is a risk since OEM power supplies are usually not as good as the good brand power supplies. You might be able to get away with it but just keep in mind that there is a risk.

Your CPU appears to be an AMD A6 processor. Those processors aren't really powerful so you may run into small bottlenecks when playing at low resolutions and low graphic settings but I doubt you will be having your games set to that.

Since you don't seem to mind buying used/refurbished graphics cards, you may be able to find cheaper and possibly better graphics cards off of eBay.

Last time I checked, someone was selling a R9 280x for 160 dollars and that card is a beast.

If you're interested, I can help you find a decent used card for a decent price and hopefully a card that won't consume a lot of power.

Speaking of that used card, I'm located in Canada so that would be a good bonus if the card was located in Canada

Thanks!

Cats869 · Oct 14, 2014

For your Power Supply, best case scenario, computer just doesn't turn on and nothing breaks.
Worst case scenario, smoke comes out of your power supply and potential damage to your computer (motherboard/etc). I think a 75W or less graphics card might be OK for your computer assuming your power supply supports 200W in total instead of 300W just to be safe. CPU takes 65W max, all your other computer components take about 50 so that leaves enough for a 75W card.

I did hear that there are potential compatibility issues where some users tried running AMD Radeon and Nvidia Geforce graphics cards in their OEM computers such as a HP OEM desktop like what you are currently using and are reporting issues. Some have the issue where the computer just won't recognize or won't post with the card installed and some work fine. It seems to be a hit or miss issue at the moment (for the mid tier to higher tier cards) relating to the BIOS with graphics cards.

What is the max budget you can spend on a graphics card anwyay? Also, what resolution on your monitor will you be playing at primarily? A GTX 750 Ti is nice I think, though it will cost you around $140 for a new card. a used card may be a bit less though.

GarrickLee · Oct 14, 2014

Cats869 :

I was originally planning to purchase the GTX 750 Ti, EVGA said that it wouldn't be compatible with my computer, so the best option was a 650 for me. On EVGA's website the card says it requires a 400w power supply and draws only 64 watts of power. The budget for me is only the price range is around the price of the 650.

Thanks!

Cats869 · Oct 14, 2014

A GTX 650 will be fine. The 400W PSU requirement listed by Nvidia is a bit higher than what you really need just in case since Nvidia doesn't want to deal with potential probems with customers. What matters the most is if your PSU quality and the amperage (both tie in first place), watts come in 2nd place in terms of importance.

HD 7750 or GTX 650 (a bit faster) [Stick with GDDR5 memory] will probably be cards that will be well suited for your current machine.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202120&cm_re=hd_7750-_-14-202-120-_-Product

Its manufacturer refurbished but a lot cheaper.

Here is a GTX 650, it is roughly the same price, maybe a bit cheaper and also manufacturer refurbished. The seller is also Newegg so you should be safe.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/EVGA-01G-P4-2650-RX-GeForce-GTX-650-1GB-128-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-0-x16-HDCP-R-/171310719018?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item27e2ea202a

Those are the cheapest I could find for those cards. So what monitor areyou using or what resolution will you be gaming at anyway?

GarrickLee · Oct 14, 2014

Cats869 :

My monitor is 1600x900, that's the resolution I play NBA 2K15 in, the $75 for the 650 looks like such an amazing steal. One thing I'm concerned about is my power supply only has one available molex, after watching a Newegg video on the card, it comes with two molex to a 6pin connector. Should I be worried?

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