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New PC still not booting....WTF

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October 13, 2014 12:49:24 PM

Sent my last board back and got a new one.
put it on top of mobo box hooked up to PSU and NOTHING still
24 PIN and 8 PIN CPU power both plugged in.
CPU doesnt have compound on it or in socket
:fou:  wtf am i doing wrong here

RAM:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMXUXKM/ref=oh_aui_...

MOBO:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPQ0Q74/ref=oh_aui_...

PSU:
http://www.frys.com/product/6893426?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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October 13, 2014 12:52:21 PM

It will not boot without a CPU(properly mounted). I don't know of any motherboards that will boot(spin fans) without a CPU.
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October 13, 2014 12:57:03 PM

^^+1 Install the CPU. Some of the ASUS Z97 mobos can without a CPU. If you want to flash the BIOS
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October 13, 2014 12:57:16 PM

skit75 said:
It will not boot without a CPU(properly mounted). I don't know of any motherboards that will boot(spin fans) without a CPU.


CPU in properly mounted with the two triangles at each other. That means the fan is spinning
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October 13, 2014 12:58:30 PM

If you want to test the components before putting them in the case then you need to assemble it properly outside the case. Plug everything in (CPU & Fan/RAM/HDD/GPU/PSU) and plug it into the monitor then when (or if as you having problems) it boots enter the bios and check that all your hardware has been correctly detected.
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October 13, 2014 1:12:25 PM

IrnMan said:
If you want to test the components before putting them in the case then you need to assemble it properly outside the case. Plug everything in (CPU & Fan/RAM/HDD/GPU/PSU) and plug it into the monitor then when (or if as you having problems) it boots enter the bios and check that all your hardware has been correctly detected.
Just plugged in one stick of RAM(8gig DDR3) SSD onto the MOBO and it doesnt even boot to the BIOS screen.

seriously starting to think my CPU is bad

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October 13, 2014 1:17:30 PM

HaPpY_fOoT said:
Just plugged in one stick of RAM(8gig DDR3) SSD onto the MOBO and it doesnt even boot to the BIOS screen.

seriously starting to think my CPU is bad



It may seem stupid to ask but occasionally its overlooked, have you made sure you've flicked the switch on the PSU? Do any indicator lights turn on to show there is power going into the components? (usually the MoBo has one)
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October 13, 2014 1:33:52 PM

IrnMan said:
HaPpY_fOoT said:
Just plugged in one stick of RAM(8gig DDR3) SSD onto the MOBO and it doesnt even boot to the BIOS screen.

seriously starting to think my CPU is bad



It may seem stupid to ask but occasionally its overlooked, have you made sure you've flicked the switch on the PSU? Do any indicator lights turn on to show there is power going into the components? (usually the MoBo has one)

this MOBO doesnt have any indicator lights, and the PSU switch is all the way over to 115(double checked). ill make a video and post the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeb7ipPqb9o&list=UU46fl...
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October 13, 2014 2:00:00 PM

Make sure your monitor is selected to the right input(it should auto-sense but you never know) using the onscreen menu/buttons.
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October 13, 2014 2:02:05 PM

It was the CPU. i swapped it out with the CPU in my other build and it fired right up. Back to newegg it goes!
thanks for all the help guys!
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October 13, 2014 2:16:50 PM

What's the CPU you used? Could as well be that your CPU draws too much power for the PSU. Your PSU doesn't seem to be of that great quality.
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October 13, 2014 2:22:17 PM

NightAntilli said:
What's the CPU you used? Could as well be that your CPU draws too much power for the PSU. Your PSU doesn't seem to be of that great quality.


no it was new. if a CPU is drawing too much power from your PSU it wont boot?
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October 13, 2014 2:25:53 PM

HaPpY_fOoT said:
NightAntilli said:
What's the CPU you used? Could as well be that your CPU draws too much power for the PSU. Your PSU doesn't seem to be of that great quality.


no it was new. if a CPU is drawing too much power from your PSU it wont boot?


If the PSU has the protections(Over-current/Over-Voltage) then yes in theory, it should hold the system OFF if any component is drawing too much of either. This is your PSU working properly with a bad CPU. The bad CPU might actually work if you added in a graphics card into a PCI-X slot and tried to boot using video from the video card instead of the CPU

Your PSU was ON in the video and you had fans which leads me to believe the on-chip graphics part of the CPU is bad, not the whole CPU. Your PSU wasn't in any protective mode with the bad CPU.
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October 13, 2014 2:27:24 PM

HaPpY_fOoT said:
NightAntilli said:
What's the CPU you used? Could as well be that your CPU draws too much power for the PSU. Your PSU doesn't seem to be of that great quality.


no it was new. if a CPU is drawing too much power from your PSU it wont boot?


Generally the fans will spin, but no booting will take place.
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October 13, 2014 2:27:55 PM

skit75 said:
HaPpY_fOoT said:
NightAntilli said:
What's the CPU you used? Could as well be that your CPU draws too much power for the PSU. Your PSU doesn't seem to be of that great quality.


no it was new. if a CPU is drawing too much power from your PSU it wont boot?


If the PSU has the protections(Over-current/Over-Voltage) then yes in theory, it should hold the system OFF if any component is drawing too much of either.
AHHHHH ok! what should i bump it up to? i can always take it back to frys and get another one to test out before i send my CPU back.
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October 13, 2014 2:38:29 PM

Well, generally, a PSU that's $35 will have a too high rating. Maybe it's advertised as 500W but can actually only deliver 300W, and will choke on anything higher. You don't necessarily have to look for more wattage, just a higher quality PSU. Generally, a power supply with an 80Plus Bronze rating or higher can be considered good enough for any system. If I look at the PSU tier list, the following one is a Tier two Class A PSU, which is guaranteed to be of great quality. Note the difference in price compared to yours, despite the wattage not being that different;

http://www.frys.com/product/6977437

Not to say that more expensive always means better. But too cheap definitely means bad when it comes to PSUs.
Also.. Don't ever ever cut your budget on your PSU. A bad PSU can literally fry your components and cause fires.
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October 13, 2014 2:47:41 PM

NightAntilli said:
Well, generally, a PSU that's $35 will have a too high rating. Maybe it's advertised as 500W but can actually only deliver 300W, and will choke on anything higher. You don't necessarily have to look for more wattage, just a higher quality PSU. Generally, a power supply with an 80Plus Bronze rating or higher can be considered good enough for any system. If I look at the PSU tier list, the following one is a Tier two Class A PSU, which is guaranteed to be of great quality. Note the difference in price compared to yours, despite the wattage not being that different;

http://www.frys.com/product/6977437

Not to say that more expensive always means better. But too cheap definitely means bad when it comes to PSUs.
Also.. Don't ever ever cut your budget on your PSU. A bad PSU can literally fry your components and cause fires.


ok that makes sense seeing that my CPU alone is pulling 100W. I will go back to Frys today and swap out PSUs to and come back with an update.
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October 13, 2014 2:51:25 PM

NightAntilli said:
Well, generally, a PSU that's $35 will have a too high rating. Maybe it's advertised as 500W but can actually only deliver 300W, and will choke on anything higher. You don't necessarily have to look for more wattage, just a higher quality PSU. Generally, a power supply with an 80Plus Bronze rating or higher can be considered good enough for any system. If I look at the PSU tier list, the following one is a Tier two Class A PSU, which is guaranteed to be of great quality. Note the difference in price compared to yours, despite the wattage not being that different;

http://www.frys.com/product/6977437

Not to say that more expensive always means better. But too cheap definitely means bad when it comes to PSUs.
Also.. Don't ever ever cut your budget on your PSU. A bad PSU can literally fry your components and cause fires.


+1 - I will second that. You don't fill your Ferrari with 87 octane...... Why would you put knock-off supply in your gaming rig. Your want nice & clean, stable gasoline for your FPS.
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October 13, 2014 2:53:09 PM

HaPpY_fOoT said:
NightAntilli said:
Well, generally, a PSU that's $35 will have a too high rating. Maybe it's advertised as 500W but can actually only deliver 300W, and will choke on anything higher. You don't necessarily have to look for more wattage, just a higher quality PSU. Generally, a power supply with an 80Plus Bronze rating or higher can be considered good enough for any system. If I look at the PSU tier list, the following one is a Tier two Class A PSU, which is guaranteed to be of great quality. Note the difference in price compared to yours, despite the wattage not being that different;

http://www.frys.com/product/6977437

Not to say that more expensive always means better. But too cheap definitely means bad when it comes to PSUs.
Also.. Don't ever ever cut your budget on your PSU. A bad PSU can literally fry your components and cause fires.


ok that makes sense seeing that my CPU alone is pulling 100W. I will go back to Frys today and swap out PSUs to and come back with an update.


Most CPUs today draw between 80-140W under load. 100W does not sound abnormal.
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October 13, 2014 2:58:53 PM

I bet your system will boot with the new PSU. Even if it doesn't (99% sure it will xD), I don't recommend you to go back to the other one.
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October 13, 2014 8:28:01 PM

NightAntilli said:
I bet your system will boot with the new PSU. Even if it doesn't (99% sure it will xD), I don't recommend you to go back to the other one.


i should have bet you. Didn't boot. Bought a new CPU thermaltake 650 80 plus bronze and still no dice. Just to be sure i took the other build down and swapped CPUs again. fired right up. i think i just got lucky with this chip :p 
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October 14, 2014 5:50:22 AM

Wow. Unexpected xD Oh well... I guess you have no choice but to send it in then.
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October 14, 2014 10:29:28 AM

skit75 said:
HaPpY_fOoT said:
NightAntilli said:
Well, generally, a PSU that's $35 will have a too high rating. Maybe it's advertised as 500W but can actually only deliver 300W, and will choke on anything higher. You don't necessarily have to look for more wattage, just a higher quality PSU. Generally, a power supply with an 80Plus Bronze rating or higher can be considered good enough for any system. If I look at the PSU tier list, the following one is a Tier two Class A PSU, which is guaranteed to be of great quality. Note the difference in price compared to yours, despite the wattage not being that different;

http://www.frys.com/product/6977437

Not to say that more expensive always means better. But too cheap definitely means bad when it comes to PSUs.
Also.. Don't ever ever cut your budget on your PSU. A bad PSU can literally fry your components and cause fires.


ok that makes sense seeing that my CPU alone is pulling 100W. I will go back to Frys today and swap out PSUs to and come back with an update.


Most CPUs today draw between 80-140W under load. 100W does not sound abnormal.

so i triple checked everything again, and just noticed the tiny letters at the bottom of the CPU box

"REQUIRES DISCRERE GPU"..... I dont have a graphics card *facepalm*
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