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October 13, 2014 11:06:44 PM

I want to build a ultra settings gaming pc that will last 6+ years, my budget would be 800-950 i guess. I am not an overclocker. I do some streaming on twitch and i make videos from the streaming content on youtube. What would you guys recommend i build for my needs?
I need an OS, and i have monitors. I have the case that i want picked out, which is the corsair 300R.
I play a lot of online games more than single players too by the way, so idk if i should go hard on cpu or hard on gpu or both? What do you guys think?!

Thanks in advance =]

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a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 11:09:38 PM

You would be lucky to last 2 years at ultra settings with that budget. Technology advances very quickly. Modern games are becoming heavily GPU AND CPU threaded (not just the GPU anymore). Whereabouts do you live?
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a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 11:13:06 PM

yeah, even high end rigs will have a hard time with 6yrs. and by that time, your rig will only be able to handle low-medium settings and will be very inefficient in terms of power draw.
and with that budget... yeah around 2yrs
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a b 4 Gaming
October 13, 2014 11:37:53 PM

Agreed. 2 years. I can build you a $1600 build for 5 years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($144.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1601.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-14 02:37 EDT-0400

And for 6 years I would probably try to go with a 5820k
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October 14, 2014 12:23:03 PM

Lol i'm pretty sure i can get by with 6 years playing MMOs lmao they don't require much.. in all honesty.
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October 14, 2014 12:23:50 PM

Lol i'm pretty sure i can get by with 6 years playing MMOs lmao they don't require much.. in all honesty. Like i said i don't play single player games , so that means new xbox and ps4 kind of games that come out.
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October 14, 2014 12:42:27 PM

Is a i5 better than i3 in video making, editing, streaming, and rending?? An i3 has hyper threading but i5s don't. Can you still video make efficiently with i5? And does overclocking a cpu from a stock of 3.3 to like 4+ REALLY benefit that much or not? And does alc 892 audio on motherboards sound fuzzy or do they sound good, is alc 1150 alot better than 892 or about the same?
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a b 4 Gaming
October 14, 2014 3:51:14 PM

Little less than two years ago the GTX 260 was released. It was a mid tiered card for about $200. This thing cannot play mmo's on ultra
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a b 4 Gaming
October 14, 2014 4:01:57 PM

well, it depend on the user actually, some people are ok playing on low so rigs will last them for years. but i would not call them ultra gaming pc esp for that price.
some online games are also demanding, bf4 for example, sure it has single player, but the meat is on the multiplayer
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a b 4 Gaming
October 14, 2014 4:13:32 PM

Sorry I meant it was released almost 6 years ago. Some glitch is not letting me edit anything right now.. Anyways, the i5 will for sure beat the i3 in rendering. If you will be editing videos I suggest you get an FX6300. But if you can afford it go for the 4460. And yes you do benefit from OCing. You can only OC CPUs with a "k" at the end. With acceptions to the G3258 and some other processors from Intel
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October 14, 2014 4:15:51 PM

Id be more worried about PC failure after 3 years as apposed to it lasting 6+ years
Best Warranties I have seen are;
5 years of some hdd's
Lifetime on some PSU's
Monitors 3 Years
1 year on most other components.

Expected life of typical PC is 2-4 Years anything over that is a bonus

Typical Technology available to consumer 6 months old
So at time of build of Latest PC is already out of date
6 months and your PC is obsolete technology

As a poor example A DVD player (already totally obsolete and rubbish)
You could spent $500 on a top end one and 1 year later the $50 model has 80% of it features.

PC's arn't quite as Bad it can Take 2 Years for Top line PC's to be outdated and considered Value for Money build or entry level

You have to ask yourself do I spend $7K now on totally awesome Gear or $3k now on great value for money and in 2 years time Spend $3k for another system which will be better than a $7k system 2 years ago?

If you Need the Best and must Have the Best so be it. If you can live with a system that cost 1/2 and preforms at 80% what the best can offer then, when your system start to seem like you need an upgrade it wont hurt as much... But you cant Brag I have the best system (for a whopping 6 minutes)
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a b 4 Gaming
October 14, 2014 4:20:39 PM

When I bud my computers I usually try to leave as much expandibility as possible.
My ram is lifetime
PSU is 10 years
HDD is 5 years and mobo is 3 years.
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October 14, 2014 9:00:37 PM

Okay you gave me a unecessary build.. 1600$ with 2 970s.. i can for sure be good for a LONGGGGGGG time with just 1 lmfao. Could you maybe give me a i5 and i7 build for a budget of about 1k no monitors but i need an OS. I just want to be able to last 6+ years , not ULTRA settings.. but PLAYABLE and comfortable gameplay.. ya know?
What is the main purpose for a i7? Does a i7 perform better than i5 in gaming, people say they don't.. but for that 130$ more for the i7.. there has to be SOME gaming difference.. >.>
Do you guys know the difference between alc 892 and alc 1150 on board motherboard audio? Are they both very good audio and is alc 1150 WAYYY better or bout the same? And the difference between 7 channel audio and 8 channel? What alc do you guys have, does it sound good, no fuzzy?
If i'm just a gamer, what should i get guys i really need help. I'd really like to spend a max of 1k but yea..
Is Intel better than AMD??

Thanks.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 14, 2014 9:49:22 PM

970 should definitely be able to do MMOs on ultra-high for a solid 5-6 years.

i7 is not worth it honestly. I personally have the 4790k and it really just doesnt make that much of a difference between i5s.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J3GVLk

I want you to look at the MSI Twin Frozr V and the ASUS STRIX. Or even the WINDFORCE GTX 970. Ill give you a run down of each:
STRIX: Overall my favorite. For someone who likes the look of backplates and likes to plug in their card and just play. (Not OC)
Twin Frozr V: Aggressive over-clocker and very comparable to the STRIX in performance. Does not have backplate.
WINDFORCE: Sick looking backplate. Very powerful and consumes most power. Runs coolest, but also loudest.
ACX 2.0: Oops design

The build I put together would look amazing with the color scheme. And the RAM has a life time warranty.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 14, 2014 10:34:23 PM

if you have an extra for the i7, i would suggest that you add that for the gpu, or a decent psu, or even a mechanical keyboard.
it is not easy to code using multi threading, so games are still limited to a few threads
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October 15, 2014 12:55:39 PM

So ... if i live stream and make youtube videos, can the i5 4690k still do a great job, what's the real difference... like 2 minutes faster in rendering and stuff? I'm leaning towards the i5 4690k because it's 100$ cheaper.

I don't plan on overclocking now, but i want to be able to in the future if i want to, so i put together a build that i feel would last me a while.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PtYbVn

The 760 is not 100%.. i'm going to wait until the gtx 960 comes out, and if the price is nice and it's better than the 760 i'll get it. Otherwise, i'll be getting the 760.

Does overclocking cause of lot more power use, i'm wondering if the XFX 550 is enough for my build, but it is a good quality PSU and puts out more power than most 600w PSU's, as I've been told.

Is 8gb RAM enough for gaming and streaming? And is 1600mhz ram speed good, or get higher? I've seen most people use 1600mhz, does it really matter about the ram speed?

Does the 212 evo come with thermal paste in a tube or something? And is it way better than the stock cpu cooler, and is good for overclocking?

Is the Asus z97-a ( in the build ) a great choice for overclocking, is it better than most boards?
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a b 4 Gaming
October 15, 2014 4:37:02 PM

Good choice on the 960. Be prepared for A LOT of back orders though.. Yes OCing uses more power. Honestly, I would get a 650W if I were you.. Just to be safe. 8GB is definitely enough. And if you find that it isnt you can add two of the same sticks and make it 16GB. 1600MHz is just fine. EVO does come with thermal paste. Yes it is far better than the stock. And yes the EVO 212 is considered bang for your buck for OCing CPU coolers. Z97-A is an excellent choice. Great board for features and over clocking. Good choice. Your build looks great to me right now :) 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg620m
Best choice for 600W+ PSUs right now.
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October 15, 2014 7:21:46 PM

Awesome man, i'm actually really excited. What do you mean about "be prepared for A LOT of back orders though..." ???

Uhmm. Is the xfx 550w going to work man, i heard it's only like a max of 20 wats when u overclock. I don't really want to buy more than i need.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 15, 2014 7:26:30 PM

Has a PSU degrades, so does it's efficiency. This is why I always get way more watts than I need. Since you have a 1000W PSU doesnt mean that it will use 1000W. And I said prepare for a lot of back orders on the 960. Meaning that a lot of people are going to want it so it will be a while for you to get it
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October 15, 2014 7:48:42 PM

Yeah it'll probably be tough getting my hands on one.

The xfx 650w is 89$ damnn lol..

What psu do you have?
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a b 4 Gaming
October 15, 2014 7:52:00 PM

750W EVGA G2 and for my friend I put in a 550w XFX TS
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October 15, 2014 9:08:49 PM

Oh yeah, nice. What's your friend's cpu\gpu and does he overclock?
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October 15, 2014 9:10:30 PM

Ultra Gaming Machine

Isn't that called PS4 or Xbox One?

/Cough /Cough ;P
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October 15, 2014 9:12:00 PM

Can't play MMOs on ps4 or xbox one sorry ;p

Question: What does the eight 1R2's on the asus z97-a in this picture? Does it have to do with overclocking or?? I never actually overclocked, is it really easy, and all done through like software and stuff? Or do you actually have to plug in jacks and stuff to the motherboard and OC the stuff LMAO?

http://gyazo.com/66f405606dd9190c6a891928e94d4926
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a b 4 Gaming
October 15, 2014 9:53:09 PM

I definitely did not just laugh ;) . No. You overclock the CPU through your BIoS. AKA the basic input output system. Basically you go into it and you change the clock speed and the voltage. There are hundreds of OCing guides on YouTube. Especially for the 4690k. The 1R2s I believe you are talking about are the chokes. Don't worry about that. Trust me, you will have no issues at all with the z97-a. And mark, ps4s and Xbox ones are going to have a very short life span. They're already needing to play at 900p
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October 15, 2014 9:55:21 PM

Yeah i bet you have a NICE laugh lmfaoo!

Do you admit that OCing is a hobby and just for fun, and you get pretty much no fps increase or gaming performance with OCing?

So if someone that doesn't care to OC should get h97 and locked cpu, and will get the same performance?
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October 15, 2014 10:05:43 PM

Was a Pun Joke (call it Trolling)
I have Never or Never will own a Gaming Console - the closest I will get is a Phone or Tablet to waste time on while not in front of a Actual computer capable of allowing me the Control I demand from a Full System not a Toy box

Looks like your in excellent hands...
Being following comments and reread the title and well just could not help myself
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a b 4 Gaming
October 15, 2014 10:10:41 PM

I bought a PS4.. I use it to charge my iPhone because my cord can't reach to the wall. so it's basically an extension console rather than a gaming one. I do like it, it's just that PCs are just so much better/:
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October 15, 2014 10:28:40 PM

Are stock cpu coolers good enough for long periods of gaming on a locked i5 (i5 4590 or 4460), and is it loud??

Do they come with thermal paste applied already, just put it straight on the mobo, or does it come with thermal paste in a tube, or do i need to buy some??

What does the eight 1R2's on the asus z97-a in this picture? Does it have to do with overclocking or??
- http://gyazo.com/66f405606dd9190c6a891928e94d4926
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a b 4 Gaming
October 15, 2014 10:49:32 PM

The cpu you buy will come with a stock cooler. This cooler comes with thermal paste already applied and all you need to do is plop it on the CPU. Yes it is more than efficient and no it shouldn't be too loud. The answer about the chokes is more complicated than you think. Look up "motherboard chokes" and find their purpose :) 
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October 16, 2014 10:53:19 AM

They have nothing to do with overclocking right?
Like you don't need to mess with them or anything to overclock , OCing is done through the bios?
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a b 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 11:41:56 AM

Overclocking is all done through the BIOS for a CPu.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 8:13:11 PM

there are tools (several actually) that can oc the cpu without going to the bios. but if you know what you're doing, bios is still the way to go, it's the old fashion way and we love it :) 
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October 16, 2014 9:20:19 PM

do you guys think a GTX 960 will max out all MMOs for a long time (around 5 years or more)? Would a gtx 760??

MMO's as in: WoW, ,League, CS:GO, Guild Wars 1&2, Runescape3
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a b 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 9:31:16 PM

For those games I think a 960 would do it. Those games are not demanding at all..
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October 16, 2014 9:33:02 PM

Nice, even a 760 would do? :D 
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a b 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 9:34:38 PM

Get a 770 to be safe. They are going for really cheap right now
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a c 458 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 9:34:42 PM

Nothing will max Guild Wars 2 in battles because it is coded REALLY horribly. Remember that. Even an x99 i7 + gtx980 will not lock 60fps in battles.

Don;t forget the next WoW add-on is going to have a HUGE graphics boost. It will be somewhere between 20-40% harder to run. A 760 will probably not max it, but a 960 SHOULD. Definitely not for 5 years though as the update after that will probably bring more graphics mods as Blizzard is promising.
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October 16, 2014 9:38:36 PM

@MasterDell - What's your specs bro?
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a c 458 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 9:40:29 PM

I would not bother with a 770. You keep talking about having more to spend. Just get the i5 and gtx970. It will last the longest BY FAR which is what you seem to care about most.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 10:13:21 PM

tiny voices said:
I would not bother with a 770. You keep talking about having more to spend. Just get the i5 and gtx970. It will last the longest BY FAR which is what you seem to care about most.

I agree. But if your wallet cannot justify paying $350 for a 970 then wait for a 960.
My rig: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/6XjhYJ

So expensive because I am Canadian.
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October 16, 2014 10:28:43 PM

Dang, that's a beast setup, latest i7 and latest gpu. Awesome haha.

Do SSDs help alot? I don't really see a need for one atm, besides for the os i guess.
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a c 458 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 10:29:39 PM

I sold my SSD as I found it did nothing for me.
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October 16, 2014 10:31:26 PM

Not even on those loading screens? :D 

Probably like 1-2 seconds faster lol.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 10:36:16 PM

I just bought an SSD to load my OS faster. I get really annoyed waiting 30 seconds+ waiting for it to boot. Let's say I boot it 2 times a day. That's a minute a day. Which is 365 minutes a year. That means that I will be waiting 6 hours a year waiting for my computer to start. Now lets span that over 6 years. Now I will be waiting 36 hours for my computer to boot. I could cut this down. From 36 hours to 6 hours by simply buying an SSd. To me it's worth it :)  but they DO NOT add gaming performance
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October 16, 2014 10:43:01 PM

LOL. You really put some thought into that.

When having 2 monitors, does it depend more on the gpu or the cpu? If i was to game on 1 monitor and the other is for random bs, would a 2gb be enough? if i used both to game on, i'd need 4gb right?

Can you have dual monitors on integrated graphics, if so would it hurt the cpu at all?

I hope the 960 will have at least 3gb.

If my hard drives look like this, is the Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM good enough for me?
- http://gyazo.com/12f51be09bbd96658fbe2cf678c86f8a
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a b 4 Gaming
October 16, 2014 10:44:54 PM

MasterDell said:
I just bought an SSD to load my OS faster. I get really annoyed waiting 30 seconds+ waiting for it to boot. Let's say I boot it 2 times a day. That's a minute a day. Which is 365 minutes a year. That means that I will be waiting 6 hours a year waiting for my computer to start. Now lets span that over 6 years. Now I will be waiting 36 hours for my computer to boot. I could cut this down. From 36 hours to 6 hours by simply buying an SSd. To me it's worth it :)  but they DO NOT add gaming performance


Some people interpret the time it takes for a part of a game to load as a performance characteristic. The truth is that an SSD only helps with making large games load sections faster. It will not give you an increase in FPS - the CPU, GPU and to some extent the RAM are the main variables that determine how much FPS you will get.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 17, 2014 6:23:28 AM

On integrated graphics I would suggest that you only use one monitor. You would be surprised how well HD4600 graphics do. A 1TB seagate would be fine for you
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a c 458 4 Gaming
October 17, 2014 6:31:21 AM

There is no reason a tall not to use 2 monitors on integrated graphics. YES it will work and NO it does not hurt the CPU.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 17, 2014 6:38:12 AM

Tiny what OP is saying is having dual screens ONLY on HD graphics right now. Both of which playing games
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