I need a ultra gaming pc that will last 6 years+

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I want to build a ultra settings gaming pc that will last 6+ years, my budget would be 800-950 i guess. I am not an overclocker. I do some streaming on twitch and i make videos from the streaming content on youtube. What would you guys recommend i build for my needs?
I need an OS, and i have monitors. I have the case that i want picked out, which is the corsair 300R.
I play a lot of online games more than single players too by the way, so idk if i should go hard on cpu or hard on gpu or both? What do you guys think?!

Thanks in advance =]
 
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Agreed. 2 years. I can build you a $1600 build for 5 years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($144.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1601.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-14 02:37 EDT-0400

And for 6 years I would probably try to go with a 5820k
 
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Lol i'm pretty sure i can get by with 6 years playing MMOs lmao they don't require much.. in all honesty. Like i said i don't play single player games , so that means new xbox and ps4 kind of games that come out.
 
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Is a i5 better than i3 in video making, editing, streaming, and rending?? An i3 has hyper threading but i5s don't. Can you still video make efficiently with i5? And does overclocking a cpu from a stock of 3.3 to like 4+ REALLY benefit that much or not? And does alc 892 audio on motherboards sound fuzzy or do they sound good, is alc 1150 alot better than 892 or about the same?
 
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well, it depend on the user actually, some people are ok playing on low so rigs will last them for years. but i would not call them ultra gaming pc esp for that price.
some online games are also demanding, bf4 for example, sure it has single player, but the meat is on the multiplayer
 
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Sorry I meant it was released almost 6 years ago. Some glitch is not letting me edit anything right now.. Anyways, the i5 will for sure beat the i3 in rendering. If you will be editing videos I suggest you get an FX6300. But if you can afford it go for the 4460. And yes you do benefit from OCing. You can only OC CPUs with a "k" at the end. With acceptions to the G3258 and some other processors from Intel
 
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Id be more worried about PC failure after 3 years as apposed to it lasting 6+ years
Best Warranties I have seen are;
5 years of some hdd's
Lifetime on some PSU's
Monitors 3 Years
1 year on most other components.

Expected life of typical PC is 2-4 Years anything over that is a bonus

Typical Technology available to consumer 6 months old
So at time of build of Latest PC is already out of date
6 months and your PC is obsolete technology

As a poor example A DVD player (already totally obsolete and rubbish)
You could spent $500 on a top end one and 1 year later the $50 model has 80% of it features.

PC's arn't quite as Bad it can Take 2 Years for Top line PC's to be outdated and considered Value for Money build or entry level

You have to ask yourself do I spend $7K now on totally awesome Gear or $3k now on great value for money and in 2 years time Spend $3k for another system which will be better than a $7k system 2 years ago?

If you Need the Best and must Have the Best so be it. If you can live with a system that cost 1/2 and preforms at 80% what the best can offer then, when your system start to seem like you need an upgrade it wont hurt as much... But you cant Brag I have the best system (for a whopping 6 minutes)
 
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Okay you gave me a unecessary build.. 1600$ with 2 970s.. i can for sure be good for a LONGGGGGGG time with just 1 lmfao. Could you maybe give me a i5 and i7 build for a budget of about 1k no monitors but i need an OS. I just want to be able to last 6+ years , not ULTRA settings.. but PLAYABLE and comfortable gameplay.. ya know?
What is the main purpose for a i7? Does a i7 perform better than i5 in gaming, people say they don't.. but for that 130$ more for the i7.. there has to be SOME gaming difference.. >.>
Do you guys know the difference between alc 892 and alc 1150 on board motherboard audio? Are they both very good audio and is alc 1150 WAYYY better or bout the same? And the difference between 7 channel audio and 8 channel? What alc do you guys have, does it sound good, no fuzzy?
If i'm just a gamer, what should i get guys i really need help. I'd really like to spend a max of 1k but yea..
Is Intel better than AMD??

Thanks.
 
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970 should definitely be able to do MMOs on ultra-high for a solid 5-6 years.

i7 is not worth it honestly. I personally have the 4790k and it really just doesnt make that much of a difference between i5s.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J3GVLk

I want you to look at the MSI Twin Frozr V and the ASUS STRIX. Or even the WINDFORCE GTX 970. Ill give you a run down of each:
STRIX: Overall my favorite. For someone who likes the look of backplates and likes to plug in their card and just play. (Not OC)
Twin Frozr V: Aggressive over-clocker and very comparable to the STRIX in performance. Does not have backplate.
WINDFORCE: Sick looking backplate. Very powerful and consumes most power. Runs coolest, but also loudest.
ACX 2.0: Oops design

The build I put together would look amazing with the color scheme. And the RAM has a life time warranty.
 
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So ... if i live stream and make youtube videos, can the i5 4690k still do a great job, what's the real difference... like 2 minutes faster in rendering and stuff? I'm leaning towards the i5 4690k because it's 100$ cheaper.

I don't plan on overclocking now, but i want to be able to in the future if i want to, so i put together a build that i feel would last me a while.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PtYbVn

The 760 is not 100%.. i'm going to wait until the gtx 960 comes out, and if the price is nice and it's better than the 760 i'll get it. Otherwise, i'll be getting the 760.

Does overclocking cause of lot more power use, i'm wondering if the XFX 550 is enough for my build, but it is a good quality PSU and puts out more power than most 600w PSU's, as I've been told.

Is 8gb RAM enough for gaming and streaming? And is 1600mhz ram speed good, or get higher? I've seen most people use 1600mhz, does it really matter about the ram speed?

Does the 212 evo come with thermal paste in a tube or something? And is it way better than the stock cpu cooler, and is good for overclocking?

Is the Asus z97-a ( in the build ) a great choice for overclocking, is it better than most boards?
 
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Good choice on the 960. Be prepared for A LOT of back orders though.. Yes OCing uses more power. Honestly, I would get a 650W if I were you.. Just to be safe. 8GB is definitely enough. And if you find that it isnt you can add two of the same sticks and make it 16GB. 1600MHz is just fine. EVO does come with thermal paste. Yes it is far better than the stock. And yes the EVO 212 is considered bang for your buck for OCing CPU coolers. Z97-A is an excellent choice. Great board for features and over clocking. Good choice. Your build looks great to me right now :)

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg620m
Best choice for 600W+ PSUs right now.
 
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Awesome man, i'm actually really excited. What do you mean about "be prepared for A LOT of back orders though..." ???

Uhmm. Is the xfx 550w going to work man, i heard it's only like a max of 20 wats when u overclock. I don't really want to buy more than i need.
 
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Has a PSU degrades, so does it's efficiency. This is why I always get way more watts than I need. Since you have a 1000W PSU doesnt mean that it will use 1000W. And I said prepare for a lot of back orders on the 960. Meaning that a lot of people are going to want it so it will be a while for you to get it
 
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I definitely did not just laugh ;). No. You overclock the CPU through your BIoS. AKA the basic input output system. Basically you go into it and you change the clock speed and the voltage. There are hundreds of OCing guides on YouTube. Especially for the 4690k. The 1R2s I believe you are talking about are the chokes. Don't worry about that. Trust me, you will have no issues at all with the z97-a. And mark, ps4s and Xbox ones are going to have a very short life span. They're already needing to play at 900p
 
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