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Abichai
October 14, 2014 4:38:57 AM
Hi,
I'm trying to see to build my first computer from scratch and I'm already lost only on the component choices. My goals is to have a gaming computer that would stay at the top for years to come and be able to work correctly when the 4K revolution arrive.
Is this build would be fine (Click Here)? Or is it maybe also a waste of money on some components ? I was thinking to plug the computer on a 40" TV screen and mainly on a 27" 2560x1440 WQHD. I'm also in designing so I'm also using 2D/3D Software with a Cintiq wacom will it be alright ?
Thanks for your help
I'm trying to see to build my first computer from scratch and I'm already lost only on the component choices. My goals is to have a gaming computer that would stay at the top for years to come and be able to work correctly when the 4K revolution arrive.
Is this build would be fine (Click Here)? Or is it maybe also a waste of money on some components ? I was thinking to plug the computer on a 40" TV screen and mainly on a 27" 2560x1440 WQHD. I'm also in designing so I'm also using 2D/3D Software with a Cintiq wacom will it be alright ?
Thanks for your help
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Ghost24
October 14, 2014 4:49:14 AM
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Trying to build a long lasting PC is a futile effort. Hardware changes very quickly, and games are becoming more and more demanding; build a computer to suit your needs now, and upgrade if necessary.
That said, that is a solid build, the 970 is a great GPU, and the i7 should last you a while. I would recommend a better CPU cooler, perhaps the Noctua D15 so you can get the most of out that CPU. You aren't going to get great FPS at 4k with a single 970, but SLI should do a decent job. You could upgrade to a 980, then if you SLI in the future you would be better suited for 4k.
That said, that is a solid build, the 970 is a great GPU, and the i7 should last you a while. I would recommend a better CPU cooler, perhaps the Noctua D15 so you can get the most of out that CPU. You aren't going to get great FPS at 4k with a single 970, but SLI should do a decent job. You could upgrade to a 980, then if you SLI in the future you would be better suited for 4k.
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October 14, 2014 4:56:03 AM
Transmaniacon said:
Trying to build a long lasting PC is a futile effort. Hardware changes very quickly, and games are becoming more and more demanding; build a computer to suit your needs now, and upgrade if necessary.That said, that is a solid build, the 970 is a great GPU, and the i7 should last you a while. I would recommend a better CPU cooler, perhaps the Noctua D15 so you can get the most of out that CPU. You aren't going to get great FPS at 4k with a single 970, but SLI should do a decent job. You could upgrade to a 980, then if you SLI in the future you would be better suited for 4k.
I think a 3-Way SLI on 970 would be faster than 2X980. The expenditure on both would be same.
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Thaisnang said:
Transmaniacon said:
Trying to build a long lasting PC is a futile effort. Hardware changes very quickly, and games are becoming more and more demanding; build a computer to suit your needs now, and upgrade if necessary.That said, that is a solid build, the 970 is a great GPU, and the i7 should last you a while. I would recommend a better CPU cooler, perhaps the Noctua D15 so you can get the most of out that CPU. You aren't going to get great FPS at 4k with a single 970, but SLI should do a decent job. You could upgrade to a 980, then if you SLI in the future you would be better suited for 4k.
I think a 3-Way SLI on 970 would be faster than 2X980. The expenditure on both would be same.
I wouldn't go with 3-way SLI on socket 1150, there's only so many lanes. On LGA2011, it would be better idea in my opinion.
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Abichai
October 14, 2014 6:28:13 AM
Transmaniacon said:
Thaisnang said:
Transmaniacon said:
Trying to build a long lasting PC is a futile effort. Hardware changes very quickly, and games are becoming more and more demanding; build a computer to suit your needs now, and upgrade if necessary.That said, that is a solid build, the 970 is a great GPU, and the i7 should last you a while. I would recommend a better CPU cooler, perhaps the Noctua D15 so you can get the most of out that CPU. You aren't going to get great FPS at 4k with a single 970, but SLI should do a decent job. You could upgrade to a 980, then if you SLI in the future you would be better suited for 4k.
I think a 3-Way SLI on 970 would be faster than 2X980. The expenditure on both would be same.
I wouldn't go with 3-way SLI on socket 1150, there's only so many lanes. On LGA2011, it would be better idea in my opinion.
Thanks for all the answer, oh I forgot to said that it would be with 2x 970 SLI
So @Transmaniacon you don't think it is possible to have a 1 or 2 year futur proof game computer even with that kind of build ?
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October 14, 2014 6:47:20 AM
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October 14, 2014 7:07:51 AM
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Abichai
October 14, 2014 8:35:07 AM
Abichai said:
Do I need thing such as Antistatic wrist strap when building the computer ?As long as you build your computer on a non-cloth surface like a table or counter, and are not standing on carpet, it should be fine. They are inexpensive though, and could be worth a little peace of mind for a first time builder.
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October 14, 2014 10:39:38 AM
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Abichai
October 15, 2014 6:00:39 AM
Abichai
October 16, 2014 3:18:21 AM
Hey thanks for all the answers mainly from @Transmaniacon I'm thinking about the monitor which one to get.
First I was going for an Asus PB278Q but then I've tried to look at monitors more precisely to see what define a good monitor for gaming and from what I understood the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q is really better mainly because of the framerate (144hz vs 60hz) and the use of the G-Sync technology ? In France the difference in price is just 250€ which isn't really much if the performance are so much better than what said. Is it really better than the Asus PB278Q by far ? or it is more a psychological effet ?
First I was going for an Asus PB278Q but then I've tried to look at monitors more precisely to see what define a good monitor for gaming and from what I understood the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q is really better mainly because of the framerate (144hz vs 60hz) and the use of the G-Sync technology ? In France the difference in price is just 250€ which isn't really much if the performance are so much better than what said. Is it really better than the Asus PB278Q by far ? or it is more a psychological effet ?
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Abichai
October 16, 2014 4:54:57 AM
Since I'm going from the start SLI 970 I guess I've got my answer. I've begin to relook also CPU Cooler like you suggested Noctua D15, how do I know he is not too bulky for the case ? since from what I understand he is in the top dog CPU cooler category so there isn't really any question about the performance of it.
I have the same question but this time on GPU how do you know that a card will fit inside a specific case ? I've seen that the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Gaming WindForce 3X is available but I'm not sure it is the best for SLI and how to know the two will fit correctly inside the Cooler Master HAF XB EVO and on the motherboard ?
Also from what I've seen its getting a bit complicated with the fans (not specific to Noctua I mean on the computer) that need to be oriented in specific way to have better cooling with them by taking air in and out at specific place ?
I have the same question but this time on GPU how do you know that a card will fit inside a specific case ? I've seen that the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Gaming WindForce 3X is available but I'm not sure it is the best for SLI and how to know the two will fit correctly inside the Cooler Master HAF XB EVO and on the motherboard ?
Also from what I've seen its getting a bit complicated with the fans (not specific to Noctua I mean on the computer) that need to be oriented in specific way to have better cooling with them by taking air in and out at specific place ?
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The CM case supports a cooler up to 180mm, the D15 is 165mm with the fan, no isssue there.
It also supports very long GPUs, to which the 970 will fit. That is a very roomy case.
Generally you want positive pressure so it helps keep dust out. Typically, the front and bottom fans are intake, and the rear and top are exhaust. That case will do a good job with cooling, and those 970s run cool so you won't have much issue with SLI.
It also supports very long GPUs, to which the 970 will fit. That is a very roomy case.
Generally you want positive pressure so it helps keep dust out. Typically, the front and bottom fans are intake, and the rear and top are exhaust. That case will do a good job with cooling, and those 970s run cool so you won't have much issue with SLI.
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Abichai
October 16, 2014 7:09:27 AM
Ok cool thanks for all the answers. I'm just trying to understand all the things sorry if there are newbie question
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So I'm better with D15 and Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Gaming WindForce 3X will give even more cooling which will be help with the SLI configuration even if they are already fit for SLI it won't hurt and for OC it will still be a plus if I do it one day.
Also I've been looking about the screen/computer connection and wasn't really able to understand the difference between the DVI, DisplayPort and HDMI and which one is the best connection to use between, I was thinking that would be the HDMI but after some research I'm seeing that DisplayPort and DVI would be better ?
.So I'm better with D15 and Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Gaming WindForce 3X will give even more cooling which will be help with the SLI configuration even if they are already fit for SLI it won't hurt and for OC it will still be a plus if I do it one day.
Also I've been looking about the screen/computer connection and wasn't really able to understand the difference between the DVI, DisplayPort and HDMI and which one is the best connection to use between, I was thinking that would be the HDMI but after some research I'm seeing that DisplayPort and DVI would be better ?
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Abichai
October 17, 2014 3:55:18 AM
Abichai
October 17, 2014 9:56:04 AM
Ok I wasn't able to found any EVGA PSU so here it is the final build. Is it good ? I took Ballistix Sport VLP since it is smaller and it is in stock I'll take the normal one if they are in stock when I take them I don't think the low profile is of any issue ? Not to much waste money on overrate components ?
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Noctua NH-D15
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q - G-Sync
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Corsair AX860 Modulaire - 860W
Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP DDR3 2 x 8 Go PC12800 CAS9
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