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October 14, 2014 7:25:03 AM

I have the following:

1.ONT (modem for my fibre broadband)
2.DLink DVG-N5402sp Gateway (Router+Voip) [used currently for wifi and digital voice for home phone]
3.New routers just bought= 2x RT-AC66u
4.16 Ports switch by TP-Link (unmanaged)
5.various device such as Printer, NAS, Apple TV, PS4 and PCs

The ONT and Gateway is provided by my ISP. My ISP is Starhub in Singapore. By default, they work as a pair, so the ONT can't work without that specific gateway and vice versa. I am currently seeking approval to switch to direct ONT so i can use any router.

I got 2 Asus RT-AC66u I bought to provide wifi to my house. I am going to deactivate the DLink Gateway.

Currently, the switch is connected to the DLink Gateway, where it is connected to the TP-Link switch, to provide wired connections to those devices I listed.

This is my proposed setup, I do not know whether this works or not:
ONT -> Switch ->multiple Lan devices and Asus router

If this setup is workable:
1.How do i connect up the 2 Asus routers together as i am going to use the same SSID.
2.Will connecting directly to the modem cause any issues or problems
3.How to configure the routers

Other setups can be given, but i am asking for advice on how to wire up and configure this setup.

note from my ISP: With direct ONT, the existing DLink gateway can no longer be used

Thanks


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October 14, 2014 8:15:57 AM

Most ONT are purely a "modem" even though it technically isn't. Because most ISP only give you a single IP address you must place some kind or router directly after the ONT. You would need to do ONT--ASUS#1---switch---asus#2..... you could of course plug the asus routers directly.

The second asus router you want to run as AP. Running cascaded routers make things complex because you have 2 networks and multiple levels of NAT.

I guess it depends why you want to get rid of the dlink. If it is ok as a router and you just want the better wireless you could disable the wireless on the dlink and use both your new asus devices as AP.

In either case you need to place your ASUS on different channels even if you use the same ssid. Different channels is going to be a challenge since 802.11ac uses blocks of 4 so you need to set one to use the bottom 4 and the other to use the top 4.
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October 15, 2014 2:04:35 AM

If i go with your solution . How do i configure the 2 Asus routers?

BTW, I have tried this many times: I connect my Mac by LAN to the DLink router and disabled DHCP server, it reboots and on the computer it says no internet connection or on my windows computer limited internet. I do not know what went wrong but the only solution is the reset it and return to default settings.

In that case, it is possible to just add a wired router in between the switch and ONT as i have one in storage
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October 15, 2014 4:39:18 AM

I guess the first question is does the ISP make it impossible to replace the dlink router with another. If you can't replace it then your options are a little different.

If you can replace it then it should not matter a lot what router your use as long as it has the features you need. If you just need a simple device that does NAT and gives out DHCP addresses it will work fine to use a older router.

You would then run both your Asus routers as AP. You would in effect only be using the radio functions in the Asus devices. To use the Asus as AP you just need to assign them a IP address that does not conflict with your main router and disable the DHCP server. You would want to assign them to different radio channels to avoid interference.
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October 16, 2014 7:46:52 AM

I can only use my own 3rd party router when I request them to activate direct ONT

I email their broadband support:

We seek to clarify that we are able to assist to bypass your current DLink gateway and do a Direct ONT solution, afterwhich you would be able to utilize your own 3rd party router.
However please note that there will be a service downtime of approximately up to 12 hours for us do proceed with this provisioning, as such please provide us a date at least 7-8 working days in advance for us to proceed with this changes.

However, if I activate Direct ONT, my home phone line would be cut off as the DLink is providing Voip services to my home phone.

tech support:
However please note that there will be a service downtime of approximately up to 12 hours for us do proceed with this provisioning, as such please provide us a date at least 7-8 working days in advance for us to proceed with this changes.

I am currently still clarifing with them on this issue, but for now I decide on going Direct ONT, and worry about my home phone later.

So once again, I connect the ONT->Wired Router,
Then, from the wired Router, a cable to the Switch,
where from there it will branch out to my 2 Asus routers,
and my other devices
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October 16, 2014 8:28:13 AM

You are correct on the cabling.

You could go with any VoIP system like skype or vontage or even magic jack. Most people I know have unlimited cell plans and have just given up on phone service.
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October 17, 2014 5:03:13 AM

Ok Thanks! But I just renewed my contract for 2 years, so I am stuck with the home phone.

How am I going to configure the devices such as:
1.Wired Router
2.Asus Routers
3.Any other applicable devices
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October 17, 2014 5:20:38 AM

The wired router is your pretty standard internet router install.

The asus routers I would recommend you run these as AP and only use the radio part of the router. There are youtube videos on how to make a router into a AP. It is still pretty trivial. You cable to the LAN port of the asus to a LAN port on the wired router. You disable DHCP on the ASUS. You assign a IP address that does not conflict with your main router. You would then configure SSID and radio channels just like you would normally of course considering you have 2 asus routers you want them on different radio channels if possible.
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less than a minute ago

Ok. I just got a reply from my ISP about my home phone line.

Tech support:
We wish to share with you that for your Digital Voice Home service, we to suggest for you to change your current Optical Network Terminal (ONT) to a Voice Enabled Optical Network Terminal (VeONT) then do a direct ONT profile.

This configuration will enable you to use your home phone to be connected directly to the VeONT and your own third party router as well.

So, now my home phone would be connected to the ONT, which will not cause anymore problems.
I think I can rest this case then
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