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October 14, 2014 3:12:58 PM

(Note: This is the first time I will attempt to build a PC on my own)

I am big trouble finding some parts for my new build and I thought I shared it here so maybe someone kind enough will give me a hand...

CPU: Intel i7 4790k 4GHz
Ram : 2 x Kingston HyperX Fury
GPU : Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 
Storage : 1 x Samsung 840 EVO-Series + 1 x Seagate Barracuda Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM004
Optical Drive : Asus Optical Drive (some amazon stuff)
Speakers : AmazonBasics PC Speakers 
Cooler : Hyper 212 EVO

Now these are the parts I really have no idea about and I would really appreciate anyone who can share any tips/info about them.

Motherboard : (All I want it to have is DDR3, some USB 3.0 ports and to be compatible with my CPU/RAM)

Power Supply Unit : (I don't really know what I need here)

Case : I have found some decent cases but I am so afraid they won't actually fit all that stuff...
InWIN G7 BLACK GAMING CASE
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 200R COMPACT GAMING CASE
Cooler Master Silencio 550 
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 300R COMPACT GAMING CASE
Fractal Design Define R4 PC Case 
CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 750D FULL TOWER CASE


Cables? Will I need any extra cables whatsoever?

(Also I would like to note that I plan on having 2 monitors.)

ANY help / tips / information / suggestions will be much appreciated!!!!

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October 17, 2014 1:10:51 PM

These parts would be very good for a bit over 1100$:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.03 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($81.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($345.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Blackout ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1182.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-17 16:08 EDT-0400
The Asus Z97-A has all you want, and is THE BEST board under 140$, 150$ and possibly under 160$.
The PSU in the list is an 80+ Gold unit with 750 watts, so SLI is possible and it's very efficient
The case is a very good case
You won't be needing any more cables as the ones you need are already provided.
If you ened a more budget-oriented build, let me know.
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October 17, 2014 1:13:53 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.00 @ NCIX US)
Total: $344.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-17 16:13 EDT-0400
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October 17, 2014 1:15:56 PM

The Gaming 5 has Killer LAN, which is one of the worst as it uses an absurd amount or CPU usage.
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October 17, 2014 1:17:51 PM

zeyuanfu said:
The Gaming 5 has Killer LAN, which is one of the worst as it uses an absurd amount or CPU usage.


Proof of that one? Never heard any such thing. I didn't pick it for the killer lan anyway, but for the better quality audio.
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October 17, 2014 1:24:49 PM

Also Asus has horrible customer support.
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October 17, 2014 1:25:22 PM

Killer NIC is a gimmick.

There will be no noticeable difference between the two.
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October 17, 2014 1:26:35 PM

RazerZ said:
Killer NIC is a gimmick.

There will be noticeable difference between the two.

Favoring Intel LAN or Killer LAN?
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October 17, 2014 1:28:07 PM

RazerZ said:
Killer NIC is a gimmick.

There will be noticeable difference between the two.


Yea I didn't care either way about whether it was a Killer, Realtek, or an Intel NIC. Asus's poor customer service, and the better audio made the Gigabyte worth the extra $7, imo.
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October 17, 2014 1:31:14 PM

@zeyuanfu I have decided on the first parts on my thread and my budget is ~1800$ . I definitely want to go for 16GB Ram as I'm going to have 2 monitors and will run heavy programs.
Also I'm going for the i7 100%.

But why Evga and not Gigabyte for the GPU? What's the difference?
Thank you for your help!

I'll post tomorrow with the motherboard I was thinking of getting and the case. Hope you're (anyone who can give me advice) here.
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October 17, 2014 1:33:58 PM

Gigabyte makes awesome motherboards, the quality of their GPU's is not as good.
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October 17, 2014 1:55:07 PM

zeyuanfu said:
RazerZ said:
Killer NIC is a gimmick.

There will be noticeable difference between the two.

Favoring Intel LAN or Killer LAN?


I don't have any brand preference, unless it's for a case/psu. I go with the most I can get for my money at the time.

I meant to say there will be no noticeable difference.
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October 17, 2014 2:49:41 PM

OK, but I still prefer Intel...
What will you be doing, OP? If it's not rendering/editing/HEAVY gaming, I think everyone else on this thread will agree with me that an i7 isn't needed. You can put the 100$ toward something else, like a better case or good peripherals.
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October 17, 2014 2:50:26 PM

RazerZ said:
zeyuanfu said:
RazerZ said:
Killer NIC is a gimmick.

There will be noticeable difference between the two.

Favoring Intel LAN or Killer LAN?


I don't have any brand preference, unless it's for a case/psu. I go with the most I can get for my money at the time.

I meant to say there will be no noticeable difference.

What case(s) do you prefer?
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October 17, 2014 3:06:15 PM

zeyuanfu said:
OK, but I still prefer Intel...
What will you be doing, OP? If it's not rendering/editing/HEAVY gaming, I think everyone else on this thread will agree with me that an i7 isn't needed. You can put the 100$ toward something else, like a better case or good peripherals.


Nah, I say skip the overclocking an use a Xeon 1231v3 instead. :D  :p 
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October 17, 2014 3:25:20 PM

I never mentioned overclocking...
You DO agree that an i7 isn't needed if OP won't do any of the things I listed above, right?
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October 17, 2014 3:32:47 PM

zeyuanfu said:
I never mentioned overclocking...
You DO agree that an i7 isn't needed if OP won't do any of the things I listed above, right?


OP chose a 4790k and your build earlier had a 4690k. A K series chip implies overclocking. ;) 
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October 17, 2014 3:44:28 PM

Ohh, subtle, didn't notice.:) 
A Xeon wouldn't be needed if all OP does is go on the Internet, but then, having an 1800$ budget is a bit too much for that:) 
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October 17, 2014 3:56:09 PM

zeyuanfu said:
Ohh, subtle, didn't notice.:) 
A Xeon wouldn't be needed if all OP does is go on the Internet, but then, having an 1800$ budget is a bit too much for that:) 


I intend to use my PC for video rendering (not heavy thought) and I also intend to use some heavy programs and play some games (yes, these games are heavy too :p )

Here is my current build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZjnNBm

I definitely want to go for an i7, I have a budget of $1800 so it's affordable!
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October 17, 2014 3:58:48 PM

zeyuanfu said:
What case(s) do you prefer?



For ~$100 the Phanteks Enthoo Pro would be my personal preference.
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October 17, 2014 4:04:37 PM

logainofhades said:
zeyuanfu said:
I never mentioned overclocking...
You DO agree that an i7 isn't needed if OP won't do any of the things I listed above, right?


OP chose a 4790k and your build earlier had a 4690k. A K series chip implies overclocking. ;) 


Strange as it may see, this will be my first build so I seriously doubt I'll attempt to overclock anything...
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October 17, 2014 4:07:01 PM

logainofhades said:
zeyuanfu said:
OK, but I still prefer Intel...
What will you be doing, OP? If it's not rendering/editing/HEAVY gaming, I think everyone else on this thread will agree with me that an i7 isn't needed. You can put the 100$ toward something else, like a better case or good peripherals.


Nah, I say skip the overclocking an use a Xeon 1231v3 instead. :D  :p 


Can you recommend me any Xeon processor within the price range of the i74970k? (No idea how much a decent xeon processor costs)
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October 17, 2014 4:11:11 PM

logainofhades said:
Gigabyte makes awesome motherboards, the quality of their GPU's is not as good.


Should I go for this motherboard?
Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150
Will it fit the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Video Card since that card is pretty big.

BTW I would very much appreciate if you could recomend a GPU out of all the 970GTXs, so many models, I'm spoiled for choice...
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October 17, 2014 4:37:18 PM

Get a Xeon 1231 V3. Should be around $250.

Any PCIEx16 graphics card can fit on any LGA 1150 motherboard , it's the question of whether or not the case will fit the card.

GTX 970... lots of good choices. The Zotac AMP! Extreme version is the best and also most expensive 970 out there.
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October 17, 2014 4:40:39 PM

I would think Zotac cards aren't really ''preferred'' among gamers and such, if I could say...
I would get the EVGA ACX 2.0 (that's my opinion, please don't say anything like ''the 970 from x brand is better because of x reason'')...
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October 17, 2014 4:42:37 PM

The E5-2609 V3 actually is better for editing as it has 6 cores, but its 1.9 GHz clock speed isn't too good for gaming.
FWIW I can play Minecraft at 30-40 FPS with a few mods on a 2007-2010 ~300-500$ laptop, the CPU shouldn't really be too poor.
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October 17, 2014 4:46:23 PM

This comes in at just under 1600$, with over 200$ for other stuff, with the OS included:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2609 V3 1.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($312.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.03 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($240.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($345.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1594.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-17 19:44 EDT-0400
SLI won't be possible, unfortunately.
As I said, the CPU won't be too good for gaming, but if you want really good editing performance, that would be the way to go.
The OS isn't OEM, so Microsoft will actually HELP you if some have a problem with Windows.
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October 17, 2014 4:46:54 PM

zeyuanfu said:
I would think Zotac cards aren't really ''preferred'' among gamers and such, if I could say...
I would get the EVGA ACX 2.0 (that's my opinion, please don't say anything like ''the 970 from x brand is better because of x reason'')...


I'm not going to argue, so instead I'll post this picture:



Overlocks the best out of all the cards. Looks the best to me ;) 

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October 17, 2014 4:50:04 PM

Looks nice, but it's OVERPRICED for what it's worth. The fans and LEDs are worth about 10-20$ IMO...
It DOES look cool, though:) 
It's also a bit long, so it won't fit in some cases.
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October 17, 2014 4:52:21 PM

zeyuanfu said:
This comes in at just under 1600$, with over 200$ for other stuff, with the OS included:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2609 V3 1.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($312.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.03 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($240.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($345.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1594.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-17 19:44 EDT-0400
SLI won't be possible, unfortunately.
As I said, the CPU won't be too good for gaming, but if you want really good editing performance, that would be the way to go.
The OS isn't OEM, so Microsoft will actually HELP you if some have a problem with Windows.


How is the 2609 faster than the 1231 V3?
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October 17, 2014 4:54:31 PM

It's not FASTER (I never said that, BTW), but it DOES have 6 cores, which, unless I have been living under a rock for the past decade, helps A LOT with editing and rendering and stuff like that.
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October 17, 2014 5:01:07 PM

zeyuanfu said:
Looks nice, but it's OVERPRICED for what it's worth. The fans and LEDs are worth about 10-20$ IMO...
It DOES look cool, though:) 
It's also a bit long, so it won't fit in some cases.


zeyuanfu said:
It's not FASTER (I never said that, BTW), but it DOES have 6 cores, which, unless I have been living under a rock for the past decade, helps A LOT with editing and rendering and stuff like that.


The 1231V3 has hyperthreading so even though it has four cores, it has eight threads (effectively making it act like an eight core cpu).

For the Zotac 970, see my edits.
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October 17, 2014 5:03:38 PM

I would think physical cores are kinda better than virtual ones?
i5s have four cores and no H-T while i3s have two cores and H-T (at least on Haswell and Haswell Refresh). The i5 is still stronger...
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October 17, 2014 5:12:07 PM

zeyuanfu said:
I would think physical cores are kinda better than virtual ones?
i5s have four cores and no H-T while i3s have two cores and H-T (at least on Haswell and Haswell Refresh). The i5 is still stronger...


It is in some cases. But in this case the 1.9Ghz clock speed makes the Xeon not even worth considering. The only reason people buy that CPU is to use it in a dual cpu config.
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October 17, 2014 5:15:41 PM

Ohh, I see...
I'm still not paying 50-100$ more over what I would pay for an EVGA 970 SC ACX 2.0 to get a few more MHz of clock speed, even though the card looks cool:) 
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October 17, 2014 5:52:15 PM

OP's choice in the end. Bang for your buck the ACX would be better, but for aesthetics the Extreme (long story short).
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October 17, 2014 5:53:17 PM

You gimped the rig with dual channel as well. X99 is quad channel. ;)  Also if you are going to suggest a 6 core, at least choose one with a decent clock speed. :p 


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.03 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($223.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($199.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($345.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($94.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1592.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-17 20:56 EDT-0400
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October 17, 2014 6:01:25 PM

logainofhades said:
You gimped the rig with dual channel as well. X99 is quad channel. ;)  Also if you are going to suggest a 6 core, at least choose one with a decent clock speed. :p 


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.03 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($223.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($199.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($345.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($94.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1592.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-17 20:56 EDT-0400

Nice, but the PSU is a Tier 3 unit...
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October 17, 2014 6:06:20 PM

I like Zotac cards. My favorite cards were Zotacs.

But FWIW I only buy blower cards.
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October 17, 2014 6:50:20 PM

Good to know:) 
Why were and not are your favorite cards Zotacs? Why not aftermarket coolers?
Not trying to be rude here, I would just like to know...
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October 17, 2014 7:50:03 PM

I like Zotac because they offer cards other companies don't. The were the first with a shorty 670 and the only with a relatively small 970 that still has top notch cooling.

I always buy blower cards in case I decide to SLI or use a small form factor case, which blower cards are FAR superior for.
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