Thanks for the advice...
1) Didn't work, both still bring up menu
2) no compressed air, but the button clicks fine
3) Didn't work
4) F12 was just startup repair??? F8 listed startup repair, syst. restore, syst. image recovery, win. memory diagnostic, command prompt
Startup repair found nothing, system restore was successful but didn't help, will try system image recovery, but didn't create an image... Don't even know how, memory diagnostic didn't find anything, and I have nothing to look for in cmd, except demanding it fix itself...
Short of taking the laptop apart, I don't know what else to do... Windows wanted to do 14 updates, that didn't fix... Malware bytes took nearly 30 minutes for a flash scan, normally a couple of minutes...
Something has got me, and is avoiding detection...