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October 17, 2014 5:30:33 AM

i want to know how well the on board graphics will work with these two products.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am not expecting it to run ultra or anything like that. i know it won't.
Will it run world of tanks on medium settings? will it run war thunder on medium settings?
How will it run star craft? how will it run diablo 3? how will it run Skyrim?
How will it run euro truck simulator 2? how will it run Sid Meier's civilization?
How will it run kerbal space program? how will it run league of legends?
How will it run mine craft?
How will this cpu and motherboard with on board graphics perform with live streaming?
I do plan on overclocking this cpu also.
In the future i also plan on getting a discrete graphics card.
I have already picked these two out. i don't really have anymore of a budget.
I only have $24.58 left after that including shipping. i use new egg too by the way.
Is there anything else i can get for that?
Thanks for the help in advance.

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October 17, 2014 5:40:48 AM

all you got to do is go to asrock and that boards page and look over its supported cpu list

if its not on the list its not supported
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October 17, 2014 5:45:51 AM

junkeymonkey said:
all you got to do is go to asrock and that boards page and look over its supported cpu list

if its not on the list its not supported


Thank you so much!
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October 17, 2014 5:46:51 AM

athlon x4 860k is without integrated graphics. Unless you add a GPU , you cant play anything . 5800K is an APU
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October 17, 2014 5:54:26 AM

rockie_ said:
athlon x4 860k is without integrated graphics. Unless you add a GPU , you cant play anything . 5800K is an APU


The motherboard has on board graphics similar to a apu i guess.
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October 17, 2014 6:03:15 AM

Tristan Artmann said:
rockie_ said:
athlon x4 860k is without integrated graphics. Unless you add a GPU , you cant play anything . 5800K is an APU


The motherboard has on board graphics similar to a apu i guess.


Not right , you read it wrong . it is meant to support Kaveri APU thus cant have on-board GPU
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X%20Pro3+/index.us.a...

Btw , the mobo supports 860K since BIOS P1.20
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October 17, 2014 6:14:53 AM

rockie_ said:
Tristan Artmann said:
rockie_ said:
athlon x4 860k is without integrated graphics. Unless you add a GPU , you cant play anything . 5800K is an APU


The motherboard has on board graphics similar to a apu i guess.


Not right , you read it wrong . it is meant to support Kaveri APU thus cant have on-board GPU
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X%20Pro3+/index.us.a...

Btw , the mobo supports 860K since BIOS P1.20


The motherboard has on board graphics. It even says on new egg.
the other motherboards said it would depend on whether or not the has cpu integrated graphics.
This one said it has on board graphics.
The cpu is a amd Athlon 2 x4 860k. Sorry mistype.
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October 17, 2014 6:16:44 AM

that's right if you want/need onboard graphics you will need a apu type cpu or a board with the gpu chip built into the board like this one

Onboard Video ChipsetATI Radeon HD 4200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


the chip you posted about is a fm2+ chip and I don't see any boards with ''on the motherboard graphics'' so as said above you will need a vid card with it to display or go with a board like I linked above and another chip that's supported with that board

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October 17, 2014 6:23:38 AM

junkeymonkey said:
that's right if you want/need onboard graphics you will need a apu type cpu or a board with the gpu chip built into the board like this one

Onboard Video ChipsetATI Radeon HD 4200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


the chip you posted about is a fm2+ chip and I don't see any boards with ''on the motherboard graphics'' so as said above you will need a vid card with it to display or go with a board like I linked above and another chip that's supported with that board



crap. what do you recommend i do?
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October 17, 2014 6:31:34 AM

rockie_ said:
A10 5800K can run a lot of games on HD resolution and costs about $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or without APU


i thought about that. i thought that the motherboard had on board graphics. i already purchased both items.
i guess i will have to buy a discrete graphics card?
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October 17, 2014 6:32:01 AM

at asrock it states on the board you posted

Some of AMD CPU (i.e AMD Athlon/Sempron family CPU) does not have integrated graphics processor. When this kind of CPU is installed, a discrete VGA card is required.
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October 17, 2014 6:34:05 AM

junkeymonkey said:
at asrock it states on the board you posted

Some of AMD CPU (i.e AMD Athlon/Sempron family CPU) does not have integrated graphics processor. When this kind of CPU is installed, a discrete VGA card is required.


so i am going to have to buy a discrete graphics card?
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October 17, 2014 6:42:15 AM

Tristan Artmann said:
junkeymonkey said:
at asrock it states on the board you posted

Some of AMD CPU (i.e AMD Athlon/Sempron family CPU) does not have integrated graphics processor. When this kind of CPU is installed, a discrete VGA card is required.


so i am going to have to buy a discrete graphics card?


Yes.
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October 17, 2014 6:44:48 AM

ya if you go with the certain chips with out the gpu built in to them

Some of AMD CPU (i.e AMD Athlon/Sempron family CPU) does not have integrated graphics processor. When this kind of CPU is installed, a discrete VGA card is required.

the chip you posted [''Athlon'' x4 860k ] to use falls under this statement -- the chip rockie posted does not and its ready with a built in the chip gpu
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October 17, 2014 6:50:51 AM

RazerZ said:
Tristan Artmann said:
junkeymonkey said:
at asrock it states on the board you posted

Some of AMD CPU (i.e AMD Athlon/Sempron family CPU) does not have integrated graphics processor. When this kind of CPU is installed, a discrete VGA card is required.


so i am going to have to buy a discrete graphics card?


Yes.


thank you for letting me know!
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October 17, 2014 6:51:28 AM

Thank you for all the help! i am glad i found out now.
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October 17, 2014 6:52:47 AM

Just make sure you get a decent graphics card if you're going with the 860k. I can help pick one out for you if you want. What is your budget for the graphics cards?
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October 17, 2014 6:55:13 AM

RazerZ said:
Just make sure you get a decent graphics card if you're going with the 860k. I can help pick one out for you if you want. What is your budget for the graphics cards?


less than $200.
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October 17, 2014 7:00:37 AM

Tristan Artmann said:
RazerZ said:
Just make sure you get a decent graphics card if you're going with the 860k. I can help pick one out for you if you want. What is your budget for the graphics cards?


less than $200.


I would go with a R9 280, or if you need something cheaper a R9 270 or 270x.
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October 17, 2014 7:04:07 AM

RazerZ said:
Tristan Artmann said:
RazerZ said:
Just make sure you get a decent graphics card if you're going with the 860k. I can help pick one out for you if you want. What is your budget for the graphics cards?


less than $200.


I would go with a R9 280, or if you need something cheaper a R9 270 or 270x.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
is this one good?
i shouldn't have to worry about bottle necking or anything right?
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October 17, 2014 7:05:02 AM

Yes, that's a good card. No need to worry about a bottleneck.
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October 17, 2014 7:11:15 AM

RazerZ said:
Yes, that's a good card. No need to worry about a bottleneck.


awesome! now for overclocking i know pretty much how it works. never done it though. am i going to need a aftermarket cooler? what about power? i have a 600 watt psu right now. is that ok?
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October 17, 2014 9:33:24 AM

Tristan Artmann said:
RazerZ said:
Yes, that's a good card. No need to worry about a bottleneck.


awesome! now for overclocking i know pretty much how it works. never done it though. am i going to need a aftermarket cooler? what about power? i have a 600 watt psu right now. is that ok?


For overclocking it would be best to get an aftermarket cooler to keep the CPU cool and stable. For ~$35 the 212 evo is a decent budget cooler.

However I would rather get a locked i3 4150 and h81 motherboard for the same price. Better performance even though it can't overclock.

Your 600W PSU should do as long as it's a good unit. Check to see if it's at least tier three on this list:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supp...
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October 17, 2014 9:46:18 AM

RazerZ said:
Tristan Artmann said:
RazerZ said:
Yes, that's a good card. No need to worry about a bottleneck.


awesome! now for overclocking i know pretty much how it works. never done it though. am i going to need a aftermarket cooler? what about power? i have a 600 watt psu right now. is that ok?


For overclocking it would be best to get an aftermarket cooler to keep the CPU cool and stable. For ~$35 the 212 evo is a decent budget cooler.

However I would rather get a locked i3 4150 and h81 motherboard for the same price. Better performance even though it can't overclock.

Your 600W PSU should do as long as it's a good unit. Check to see if it's at least tier three on this list:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supp...

i have a thermal take tr2 bronze 600 watts. it says it is yet to be tiered.
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October 17, 2014 9:53:08 AM

It should be ok. Not the best psu out there but it will work.
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October 17, 2014 10:13:53 AM

For an AMD CPU, an Nvidia GPU might be a smarter move. In DX11 titles a maxwell or kepler will produce up to 25% higher minimum FPS in compute bound conditions due to reduced compute overhead on any single core. Nvidias driver and API are better suited to AMD parallelism than AMD's own GPUs in DX11 titles.

GTX660 or GTX760, whichever you can afford.

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Assuming you have the TR-600P, you shouldn't have any problems with the PSU for overclocking the CPU on an FM2+ platform. The TR-600P is likely OEMed by FSP and I believe it shares a platform with their Raider and/or Aurum S series. I think they even threw a Japanese primary filtering capacitor on it for good press. The secondaries are likely 105C rated Teapo or Capxon, which is similar to what you would find in a Rosewill Green, Rosewill Arc, or Corsair Builder/CX series. The 600W rating and Bronze certification are both likely on the conservative side as I believe the platform has been sold as a 650W passing Silver and Gold in some of FSPs models. It's not a top tier PSU, probably ~ Tier two Class B based on looking at that thread.

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Don't worry about having selected the 860K. Granted an i3 haswell would run many games better (up to ~25% better), once overclocked the advantage of the i3 in those games will be pretty slim. In fact, in DX11 games, an overclocked 860K with an nvidia GPU will maintain higher minimum FPS in compute bound conditions than an i3-4130 with an AMD GPU.

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October 17, 2014 10:36:31 AM

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For an AMD CPU, an Nvidia GPU might be a smarter move. In DX11 titles a maxwell or kepler will produce up to 25% higher minimum FPS in compute bound conditions due to reduced compute overhead on any single core. Nvidias driver and API are better suited to AMD parallelism than AMD's own GPUs in DX11 titles.

GTX660 or GTX760, whichever you can afford.

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Assuming you have the TR-600P, you shouldn't have any problems with the PSU for overclocking the CPU on an FM2+ platform. The TR-600P is likely OEMed by FSP and I believe it shares a platform with their Raider and/or Aurum S series. I think they even threw a Japanese primary filtering capacitor on it for good press. The secondaries are likely 105C rated Teapo or Capxon, which is similar to what you would find in a Rosewill Green, Rosewill Arc, or Corsair Builder/CX series. The 600W rating and Bronze certification are both likely on the conservative side as I believe the platform has been sold as a 650W passing Silver and Gold in some of FSPs models. It's not a top tier PSU, probably ~ Tier two Class B based on looking at that thread.

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Don't worry about having selected the 860K. Granted an i3 haswell would run many games better (up to ~25% better), once overclocked the advantage of the i3 in those games will be pretty slim. In fact, in DX11 games, an overclocked 860K with an nvidia GPU will maintain higher minimum FPS in compute bound conditions than an i3-4130 with an AMD GPU.

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awesome! i will probably be getting a gtx 760. would it be better to pony up for a 970?
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October 17, 2014 1:21:30 PM

@mdocd Where are you getting all this info from?
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' Nvidias driver and API are better suited to AMD parallelism than AMD's own GPUs in DX11 titles. ''

I see so amd made there stuff not work well together??

now I do know back in the old days a AMD chip on a NVidia chipset board workd to me better then the amd chipset but then it was like NVidia forced AMD into the chipset market cause they pulled out
I would like to see some links on his info too
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