Is this PC build the best it can be for $500?
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October 17, 2014 4:53:15 PM
I watched this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAAzc-VXnIQ
I was wondering if it is the best it can be for 500. I would use it for gaming, recording, minimal video editing, and MAYBE streaming.
Thanks! And feel free to make changes, or show me a completely new build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAAzc-VXnIQ
I was wondering if it is the best it can be for 500. I would use it for gaming, recording, minimal video editing, and MAYBE streaming.
Thanks! And feel free to make changes, or show me a completely new build.
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zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:13:31 PM
This build is MUCH better than the one in the video:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($62.27 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $510.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($62.27 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $510.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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October 17, 2014 5:13:34 PM
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October 17, 2014 5:17:25 PM
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October 17, 2014 5:21:22 PM
Or this one? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/77rnNG
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zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:21:32 PM
I would go with the Intel, no questions asked, as:
1, Intel has 22 nm manufacturing tech while AMD has 32 nm, which is worse
2, The G3258 has the upgrade path to the 4690K, which CRUSHES the best CPU you can upgrade to in the vid's build, the Athlon x4 860K
3, It has a better stock HSF, which is good for overclocking
And much, much more.
1, Intel has 22 nm manufacturing tech while AMD has 32 nm, which is worse
2, The G3258 has the upgrade path to the 4690K, which CRUSHES the best CPU you can upgrade to in the vid's build, the Athlon x4 860K
3, It has a better stock HSF, which is good for overclocking
And much, much more.
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October 17, 2014 5:24:21 PM
@Zeyuanfu:
http://gyazo.com/15da87363d1ce35056273d8ceb569a29 is this something to look out for?
And should I get a cpu cooler? Can I get as much info on the build as possible? You can save me :3 Thanks!
http://gyazo.com/15da87363d1ce35056273d8ceb569a29 is this something to look out for?
And should I get a cpu cooler? Can I get as much info on the build as possible? You can save me :3 Thanks!
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October 17, 2014 5:26:57 PM
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Or this one? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/77rnNGThat is an EXACT COPY of the build I posted...
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October 17, 2014 5:28:35 PM
zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:28:48 PM
BIOS updates shouldn't be a thing to worry about as the G3258 supports BOTH 8-series and 9-series boards.
You don't need a cooler as:
1, That would be 30$ for a few degrees lower temps
2, You'll have to get worse parts.
The stock G3258 HSF is already good as it's the one that comes with the i5-4690K and the i7-4790K, which has copper in it.
You don't need a cooler as:
1, That would be 30$ for a few degrees lower temps
2, You'll have to get worse parts.
The stock G3258 HSF is already good as it's the one that comes with the i5-4690K and the i7-4790K, which has copper in it.
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October 17, 2014 5:29:02 PM
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zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:30:34 PM
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October 17, 2014 5:32:16 PM
zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:36:01 PM
If you can stretch your monitor budget by 15$, here's what to get:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Monitor: BenQ GW2265HM 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $114.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Monitor: BenQ GW2265HM 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $114.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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October 17, 2014 5:38:38 PM
zeyuanfu said:
If you can stretch your monitor budget by 15$, here's what to get:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Monitor: BenQ GW2265HM 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $114.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Thanks! By the way, I must ask you a question.
Is it worth getting windows 7 for free on a new pc? Spending 90 dollars is outrageous. Would it be smart to install it on a flash drive?
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zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:40:11 PM
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October 17, 2014 5:41:35 PM
zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:43:43 PM
sparestuff
October 17, 2014 5:44:28 PM
zeyuanfu said:
This build is MUCH better than the one in the video:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($62.27 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $510.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Would go with everything but the PSU on this build, the Antec HCG 620W is only $49.99 or something like that, get that instead, especially if he wants to overclock.
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October 17, 2014 5:47:25 PM
zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:50:45 PM
zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 5:52:47 PM
sparestuff said:
zeyuanfu said:
This build is MUCH better than the one in the video:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($62.27 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $510.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-17 20:13 EDT-0400
Would go with everything but the PSU on this build, the Antec HCG 620W is only $49.99 or something like that, get that instead, especially if he wants to overclock.
WRONG. the HCG 620 is about 70$ and is maybe 50$ AFTER mail-in rebate, which does NOT apply to the current purchase.
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October 17, 2014 5:58:39 PM
zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 6:02:07 PM
The keyboard you used to create and write in this thread
If you really want a ''gaming'' keyboard, I'd recommend:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($27.87 @ NCIX US)
Total: $27.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Comes with a decent keyboard and mouse.
If you really want a ''gaming'' keyboard, I'd recommend:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($27.87 @ NCIX US)
Total: $27.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Comes with a decent keyboard and mouse.
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October 17, 2014 6:04:57 PM
Linux loses about 10-40% performance depending on the game and only like 30-50% of games run on Linux. It is NOT designed for gaming at all. It is an OS built and meant for learning programming.
OP if you want to record and edit gameplay DO NOT get the Pentium. You WILL regret it. Get an Athlon x4 860k build instead. It will edit, render, and record MUCH MUCH better. Some games you won't even be able to record with the Pentium because the stutter is so bad. This is a well known and documented issue. Streaming will be nearly impossible.
OP if you want to record and edit gameplay DO NOT get the Pentium. You WILL regret it. Get an Athlon x4 860k build instead. It will edit, render, and record MUCH MUCH better. Some games you won't even be able to record with the Pentium because the stutter is so bad. This is a well known and documented issue. Streaming will be nearly impossible.
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October 17, 2014 6:09:35 PM
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October 17, 2014 6:14:16 PM
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All you would change is the CPU to an Athlon x4 860k and the motherboard to a compatible FM2+ board. It will allow for recording and editing and streaming no problem. There is much less upgrade path though. That is the only drawback. You would haveto buy a new motherboard if you wanted to upgrade to an i5.
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October 17, 2014 6:25:29 PM
tiny voices said:
All you would change is the CPU to an Athlon x4 860k and the motherboard to a compatible FM2+ board. It will allow for recording and editing and streaming no problem. There is much less upgrade path though. That is the only drawback. You would haveto buy a new motherboard if you wanted to upgrade to an i5.This would be appropriate? I don't know about the mobo. I had no idea :S
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zbXpVn
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October 17, 2014 6:36:09 PM
oops meant this build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YGcP7P
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YGcP7P
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zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 6:44:25 PM
rockie_
October 17, 2014 6:46:07 PM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($52.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $464.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($52.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $464.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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October 17, 2014 6:53:14 PM
zeyuanfu said:
I wouldn't get that build if you're looking for long-term performance i.e. a good upgrade path. The 860K is the best FM2+ CPU, so you can't upgrade it.If the 500$ build is only temporary, the 860K build would be good, though.
So what should I go with for performance with recording, gaming, and livestreaming? This build would be insufficient?
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zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 6:58:39 PM
If you can stretch the extra 40-50$, the i3-4150 would be better:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $109.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The 4130 would also be a solution...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $109.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The 4130 would also be a solution...
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October 17, 2014 6:59:35 PM
Dat_Robot
October 17, 2014 6:59:39 PM
@zeyuanfu I wouldn't recommand a motherborad as cheap as you choose but it fits a g3258 so its okay.
But my build defenitly beat yours
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/64sByc
And costs WAY less.
But my build defenitly beat yours
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/64sByc
And costs WAY less.
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October 17, 2014 7:01:20 PM
Dat_Robot
October 17, 2014 7:02:02 PM
BTW, the G3258 crushes the I3 series (4130-4150)
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-G3258-vs-Intel-Core-i3-41...
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-G3258-vs-Intel-Core-i3-41...
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October 17, 2014 7:03:04 PM
zeyuanfu said:
If you can stretch the extra 40-50$, the i3-4150 would be better:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $109.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The 4130 would also be a solution...
It has less cores and 3.5 GHz instead of 3.7 GHz though?
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October 17, 2014 7:04:52 PM
rockie_
October 17, 2014 7:09:47 PM
Dat_Robot said:
BTW, the G3258 crushes the I3 series (4130-4150)http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-G3258-vs-Intel-Core-i3-41...
i3 4150 is about 40% faster than G3258 according to 3D Mark 11 - gamers benchmark
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October 17, 2014 7:14:32 PM
I have to stay in this price range because I still need Windows 7(90 bucks), and a monitor. So this is the build
( http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YGcP7P ) any change ideas?
( http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YGcP7P ) any change ideas?
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zeyuanfu
October 17, 2014 7:31:39 PM
RazerZ
October 17, 2014 7:38:27 PM
Dat_Robot said:
BTW, the G3258 crushes the I3 series (4130-4150)http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-G3258-vs-Intel-Core-i3-41...
Don't use that site to compare CPUs. The i3 is a much better cpu compared to the G3258.
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October 17, 2014 7:40:27 PM
Exclusions said:
I have to stay in this price range because I still need Windows 7(90 bucks), and a monitor. So this is the build ( http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YGcP7P ) any change ideas?
Get a cheaper motherboard and upgrade the GPU to a R9 280.
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October 17, 2014 7:42:14 PM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($88.69 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($52.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ NCIX US)
Base Total: $522.62
Mail-in Rebates: -$35.00
Shipping: $5.67
Total: $493.29
CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($88.69 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($52.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ NCIX US)
Base Total: $522.62
Mail-in Rebates: -$35.00
Shipping: $5.67
Total: $493.29
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Thanks, you've been amazingly helpful. I will build this on December 1st(birthday) and get the keyboard/monitor. Once again, truly, thank you!