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Motherboard: Gigabyte Z97X-UD5H
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K
GPU: GTX 690
RAM: GSkill 2x4GB
Internal HDD: WD Black 1TB
Internal SSD: Crucial M550 128GB
PSU: Seasonic Platinum 860W

- Keep in mind that money IS NOT an issue. What I want from the case, is the best cooling posibble, and option for later watercooling.
 
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Ya, the 690 is an SLI board on any MB it is on, not really theoretically but physically, your system sees 2 cores out there in SLI just like it would see 2 separate cards in SLI. With 2 cards you could run them separately if you wanted, I don't think you can with a 690, it is SLI only.

Another thing to consider, heat, you have 2 hot cores on 1 board and only so much cooler, on 2 boards you basically have twice the cooling capability because you have 2 coolers. Just take an objective look at this in reference to your 690, as you must know the 295x2 from AMD is factory WCed, that is one reason it even works, but as on par with AMD it is half assed. Visiontek did it right with a full cover block to let the 295 fly, what a difference a...
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Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra :
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Buy:
http://www.amazon.com/Sunbeamtech-PL-RS-6-Rheosmart-Fan-Controller/dp/B004LKZESI

This case is a Big one. I added a Yate loon 140mm 140cfm red led fan to the rear , put that one on the bottom. Put a scythe 120mm
Slip Stream in back of the motherboard. I added 5 low velocity fabs to the side. Then I put all the fans on Two Sunbeamtec Rheosmart 6
Fan Fontrollers. The fan hubs this unit comes with are not adequate.
 
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Well why not a GTX 960? - Yeah I'll get the Samsung 850 PRO instead. I'd like to hear why not the 690 though
 
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Awesome man. Great great great reads too. Really appriciated. Thanks :)
 
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Well I did some search on the 760T, and it sounds really really high-end, and yes, sounds very good to screw on. Thanks man, in fact, I am really leaning towards that case.

 
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It was my pleasure.

 
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Well, you won't get an argument from me why you should not go with a 690, sorry but that was not why I asked. If I were building a nice gamer right now would I go with a 690, no most likely not given what is available today. So my question was more curiosity than trying to suggest something different.

Guess it depends a lot on cost, found a new 690 for 1k and used for $600 on Amazon, both EVGA. This is where I may be thinking wrong, please correct me if I am, your MB will support the 690 but that will be it, you could not add another card, say perhaps a 680 to run tri-SLI. So you would be at the top of your game with a 690 and your MB.

On the other hand new 970s in SLI would top the used 690 at about the same price, use less power and produce less heat, also double the memory for each core (4 per core). For the price of a new 690 one could run a set of 780Ti's and see a large performance gain over the 690 and save $100. This is how I was thinking about it anyway.....



 
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Perhaps take a quick look at this, the 780 is not a good value right now anyway as the 780Ti is going for around $440 and a much better core (fully enabled GK110). This I think is the very best NV SLI set up today, it's just a few FPS slower than a 980 and $100 cheaper. A set of 970 would match a 690 at a much lower cost but would not give the performance of the 780Ti.

Given the 690 is merely 2 x 680 (GK104) and both cores have been under clocked on the 690 compared to the 680 I guess for heat issues. The 770 is also just a 680 with higher clocks (50Hz on both core and memory), but they would only run neck and neck with a 690 so there is no point really here (same with 780s). The absolute best would be the 980 (GM204) SLI but $1100 is not worth it now when the 780Ti set up is only $880 and a few FPS slower, yet much faster than a 690. Just something to think about spending that amount of money.

780Ti SLI vs 690
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1184?vs=1073

 
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No problem man! I loved the 730t and it was my first build and was awesome to build in,

 
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IF you read my comment I never recommended the 780 ever as you seem to say I did or do or whatever. The 780Ti and 780 are 2 different boards completely, For some reason you and Dekb97 seem to think I am suggesting a 780, I am not, I recommend the 780Ti.

Here is a 780

Release Date 23rd May, 2013
Launch Price $649 USD
Board NVIDIA P2083
GPU Model 28nm GK110-300
Cores : TMUs : ROPs 2304 : 192 : 48
Clocks Base Clock 863 MHz Boost Clock 900 MHz
Memory Clock (Effective) 1502 (6008) MHz
Memory Size 3072 MB GDDR5
Memory Bus Width 384-bit
Memory Bandwidth 288.384 GB/s
Thermal Design Power 250 W

Here is a 780Ti

Release Date 7th November, 2013
Launch Price $699 USD
Board NVIDIA P2083
GPU Model 28nm GK110-425
Cores : TMUs : ROPs 2880 : 240 : 48
Clocks Base Clock 875 MHz Boost Clock 928 MHz
Memory Clock (Effective) 1750 (7000) MHz
Memory Size 3072 MB GDDR5
Memory Bus Width 384-bit
Memory Bandwidth 336 GB/s
Thermal Design Power 250 W

Hope this clears things up a bit about them. This important part is the core itself, GK110-300 vs GK110-425, note the TMUs and ROPs.
 
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The 690 is an SLI card, it has 2 cores that run in SLI. The only difference between it and say 2 680 in SLI (which is what it is) is it is made on 1 board instead of 2. All duel core boards are either SLI or XFire if AMD.

Your MB has 3 x PCIe 3.0 slots that run 16 x 0 x 0, 8 x 8 x 0 or 8 x 4 x 4. Nvidia requires 8 paths for SLI for each board or core, AMD only 4. A 690 will use all 16 paths in the slot it is in so you can not all another card because you are already doing SLI with the 690, 8 paths for each core.

For the price of a new 690 you could get a R9 295x2 that runs circles around a 690, it's that simple. And my suggestion of 780Ti in SLI will out performs even a 295x2 for $120 cheaper.

It's your money, I am just trying to give you some info on a few options that will save you money and give you better performance in the long run. If you are set on a 690 then by all means get one, it's a great card. Yet today it's not what I would consider a good buy by any measurable standard. And that is the only reason I have spent the time here with you putting the 690 into prospective with what the market offers today, not to talk you out of it.
 
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Yeah yeah yeah I got it, brother. And thank you, you in fact, made something go up for me. I'm really battling between what you've told me, and the 80' sli and the 90 single. Just one simple question with the slots you told me about. A single 690, on a z97 board, would theoraticly be SLI, right?
 
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Ya, the 690 is an SLI board on any MB it is on, not really theoretically but physically, your system sees 2 cores out there in SLI just like it would see 2 separate cards in SLI. With 2 cards you could run them separately if you wanted, I don't think you can with a 690, it is SLI only.

Another thing to consider, heat, you have 2 hot cores on 1 board and only so much cooler, on 2 boards you basically have twice the cooling capability because you have 2 coolers. Just take an objective look at this in reference to your 690, as you must know the 295x2 from AMD is factory WCed, that is one reason it even works, but as on par with AMD it is half assed. Visiontek did it right with a full cover block to let the 295 fly, what a difference a bit of cooling makes.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/visiontek-cryovenom-r9-295x2,3951.html

Same thing with a 690 or any duel core board, you have twice the heat to deal with and only so much cooling.

My opinion here about any duel core board, they are the fasted single card solution you can get, IF you need it. If I have only 1 PCIe x 16 slot and want SLI then the Titan-Z or 295x2 are my only 2 options. I can't think of any other reason off hand that would benefit me getting a 690. Also, I would not buy a 680 today much less 2 of them in a 690 unless I had to simply because of performance (the GK104 is a bit dated today) and heat (300W TDP) on 1 board. Also only 2GB per core, it may be fine today but memory needs are expanding with the higher higher density screens, 3GB per core would be better.
 
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Great help man. I see what you're trying to say. Hmmm.. Going to be a though one, but surely you made it easier - and oh, sorry for misunderstanding you earlier on this thread. Maybe, I'll go for a 780 - and if it aint enough, then make it SLI. Thank you very much. Haven't decided yet though :) Can I give you some sort of like "point" or something?
 
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