Help with first gaming PC build ($600-$800) - Canada

CorneliusBubba

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Hi everyone,

I am looking to buy a new PC and have no experience building a PC, but I'm strongly considering it. I've seen some of the great advice that others have received in this forum, and I'm hoping you can help me out. I am going to use this PC for gaming and would like it to be on par with the PS4/Xbox One if possible, since I mainly play on a PS3 and am looking to upgrade the visual experience with the added benefit of modding that you can't get easily on consoles. I would like this PC to serve me well for about 3-5 years if possible.

I will do my best to describe what I will need:

Primary uses: PC Gaming, web browsing (including videos), word processing and other Microsoft Office work

Current Gen Games Examples: Skyrim with ultra-realistic graphics mods, Bioshock Infinite, Civilization V, XCOM: Enemy Unknown, Starcraft 2, Crysis 2, Mass Effect 1/2/3, etc. on highest graphics settings


Next Gen Games Examples:
Crysis 3 (med-high settings if possible), Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain, Thief, Homeworld: Remastered, --> would like next gen games to look as good or better than the PS4 with similar frame rates.

Display: I will be playing on a 22" LCD Monitor that supports 1080p most of the time. It says it supports computer resolutions up to 1680x1050. If I do by a new monitor in the future, I will likely NOT get 4K, maybe something around the 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 resolutions.

Peripherals: None needed

Budget: $600-$800 if possible. I will be sourcing parts in Canada.

Upgrade Requirements:
I would like the motherboard, etc. to be able to support more RAM and additional graphics cards in the future if I need ti keep pace with new games that are becoming quite graphically demanding - if this is something you would recommend. However, I don't need to be able to max out all settings on next-gen games at this point.

Graphics Requirements: I guess this graphics card would need to support DirectX 12 and Windows 10? Or is that too far off?

Processor: I have only ever used Intel but I am open to others - I read a lot that the i5s are preferable in the long run over the 6-core AMD but I really don't know because I have no experience. I will not be video recording or doing heavy video editing, graphics work, etc. so I do not think I will need the i7's hyper threading feature.

Timeline: Is there a better time to buy PC parts, e.g. during Black Friday sales? Also, should I be holding off before making any purchases if there is new tech coming out that you think would be worth the wait?

Any advice is appreciated! Thanks everyone.
 
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For 800 you can EASILY beat next gen consoles. Good choice on moving away from them by the way, companies are starting to tone down the FPS and res on next gen consoles because the hardware is cheap. There isn't really a GREAT time to buy parts. Basically whenever you can is best. During black friday you won't see many computer parts go on sale because they are legitimately expensive to make in the first place. SSDs tend to be the largely discounted items. I really urge you to wait for the release of the GTX 960. Should be out really soon. I wish I could fit a 970 build in your budget but I cant :( I can in USD but not in CAD. (Im Canadian too :p) Build I suggest if you cant wait for 960:

PCPartPicker part list / Price...
This would be what I'd get for 23$ over budget:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.58 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($86.78 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($299.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-B ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($82.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $823.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-19 18:04 EDT-0400

The 290 DOES support DX 12 and might support W10.
The CPU is upgradeable to any i5, i7 or Xeon (Haswell, haswell Refresh and Skylake).
I would wait a month or two till Christmas as there will be some sales.
 
For 800 you can EASILY beat next gen consoles. Good choice on moving away from them by the way, companies are starting to tone down the FPS and res on next gen consoles because the hardware is cheap. There isn't really a GREAT time to buy parts. Basically whenever you can is best. During black friday you won't see many computer parts go on sale because they are legitimately expensive to make in the first place. SSDs tend to be the largely discounted items. I really urge you to wait for the release of the GTX 960. Should be out really soon. I wish I could fit a 970 build in your budget but I cant :( I can in USD but not in CAD. (Im Canadian too :p) Build I suggest if you cant wait for 960:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Diamond Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($259.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.98 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($74.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.09 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $830.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-19 18:00 EDT-0400

If you want a $650 build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($121.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.98 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.09 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $656.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-19 18:04 EDT-0400

If you can stretch a $130 in that would be amazing:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($196.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card ($369.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.98 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.09 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $931.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-19 18:07 EDT-0400

 
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CorneliusBubba

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Thanks zeyuanfu and MasterDell! This is very helpful. Glad to know that I don't have to go for the i5 4690k or an i7. I'll wait till xmas and see what I can get at that time. Again, many thanks!