Triple system advice, two WoW MultiBoxing systems, one server.

Sp_i_ke

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Hey guys,

Planning 3 new systems, would like to get some advice on my plans so far.

Short background: My wife & I both like to play World of Warcraft, Multiboxing style. She plays up to 5 accounts, I've played both 5 and 10. 5-boxing brings my wife's rig to it's knees (on lowest setting), mine can handle 5-boxing (not perfect, but playable) but 10-boxing, even with CPU overclocking, is just to much to ask, both systems are at least 3 years old. So no upgrading, planning for some new toys (thumb-rule for Multiboxing: at least one tread (one core would be better) per game-session). Third system is a much needed new Server.
Budget: I've just given up having one, got blown and raised at least twice already.
Storage: I'm still waiting for the bigger 2014 Synology NASs to be announced and released (1814+), therefor no hard drives just SSDs.
Monitors: The wife's got 4 (one full-HD, the other 1600x1200) , I've got 6 (center is a 30 inch 2560x1600, it flanked by two 1600x1200 in portrait, above those three more 1600x1200).
Peripherals: Logitech G13, G19 & G600.
Goal: More power!!! & Silence.

Here are the plans so far:
System 1 (Server), I know its overkill:
Asus Maximus VII Impact
Intel Core i7-4790K
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB DDR3-2400
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB
Corsair AX 760i or HX 750i

System 2 (Mine):
Asus ROG Rampage V Extreme
Intel i7 5930K or 5960X
Corsair Dominator Platinum 4 x 8 Gb DDR4-2666 CL15 - or - G.SKill RipJaws 4 x 8 Gb Kit DDR4-2666 CL15
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB
2 or 3 EVGA GTX 980
Corsair AX1200i

System 1 & 2 will bunk together in a HAF Stacker (915-935-915).

System 3 (Wife):
Asus X99 Deluxe
Intel 5820K or 5930K
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB
Corsair Vengeance 16 GB DDR4-2800 White
1 or 2 EVGA GTX 980
Corsair AX 760i or HX 750i
Corsair Carbide Air 540 Silver Edition

I know the server is a little overkill, it will probably be doing very little most of the time. I like to have the extra power so I can run some of the game sessions on it when my main system runs out of power while MultiBoxing to many account.
Gona custom water cool both system. Never water cooled before, so we'll see how that works out. Was planning to put an Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 360 & an Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240 with 5 Corsair SP fans in my Wife's rig. The HAF Stacker, with the two systems in it, has room for 2 360s (60mm) and 2 240s (60 or 80mm) radiators. If there is sufficient room I'll do push-pull on the 240 radiators. I'll be getting EK Waterblocks all round (probably the hydro copper 980s), rigid tubing, Aquacomputer Aquastream XT pumps (will one suffice for the Stacker?) and an Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 to control it all.

My questions:
1 - I heard the HX750i is quieter than the ax760i? Do the Server and my Wife's system need 750 watt or could they do with less, how about my main system? What would you advise?
2 - I would like to get 32GB memory for now and upgrade to 64 later, this means I'm forced to buy 4x8GB, but I can't find any kit with speeds higher then 2666 Mhz. Should I settle with the lower speed memory, or get cheap 8x4GB with higher speeds and wait for the bigger kits to be released with higher speeds and lower prices.
3 - Is there a difference between the 5820 and 5930 when I would at the most use that system for double-SLI.
4 - There's a lot of talk about a 980ti being released soon, should I wait for those or get 980s. Will there be 980s with more VRAM?
5 - Will the cooling capacity I have planned suffice to keep the systems quiet with headroom for some not over the top overclocking of the CPUs and GPUs?
6 - Will one waterpump (Aquacomputer Aquastream XT) suffice for both systems in the HAF Stacker?
7 - Would like to get some lighting in both systems, any ideas?.
8 - Would you change anything.

Any other advice is off course welcome.

Sorry for the long read.

Thanks sPˊ!ˋKe
 
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Understood about the X99 platform, just throwing out some alternatives. Also, I was thinking the i7-5820 was a quad-core, scratch that. If you're going to actually use the extra cores, then yes, it's worth more. Core-per-core, it's actually 700MHz behind the 4790k at stock, so yes, OC that sucker. It also has a lot of the cache disabled, compared to the 5930/5960, but not sure if that's important in your case.



Yes, I meant the 850 is a hair behind the 840 EVO performance-wise. You probably wouldn't notice a difference unless they were side-by-side; especially if you're coming from an old SSD or HDD. The 850 does use more rugged "3D NAND", and come with a 10-year warranty, but unless you're constantly writing like 10GB of data to the...

Rapajez

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What exactly is the "server" doing? If it's just storage/media, it seems like a cheaper, less power hungry i3 or even the new $70 G3258 Pentium, along with a $70 Micro-ITX board would get the job done. Save the SSD for the system running the games and applications.

The 850 Pro is a beast, but the EVO 840 is much cheaper, and only a hair smaller.

Additional source of money saving would be dropping the X99 down to the X79 platform, along with a Ivy-Bridge-E CPU and DDR3 RAM. You'd lose out on the upgrade path, and couldn't get the 8-core 5960, but would save a lot of money.

On the flip-side, the X99 platform would probably only be worth it if you went all out and got the 8-core 5960. The 5820 looses the extra PCI-E lanes, (only a slight impact to double-SLI, any higher and it may start to hurt), but the real negative with the 5820, is you're basically paying extra, for a CPU slower than the i7-4790. Maybe go Z97 + i7-4790k for her build?

DDR4 is still new, so the speeds should progress steadily over the next few months. I'd just buy what's affordable now and see how it performs, worry about the upgrade later.

The GTX 980Ti is just guesswork at this point, looking at past releases, it makes sense for a 980Ti to be released in the next few months, with a little more memory. There's also a chance they'll release a "6GB" 980, as they already have with the 780. I'd assume more VRAM is good for multi-boxing? If so, you may even want to consider the 780 6GB-Edition over the 980.

 

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I haven't been waiting, for over 6 months, for X99 to be released, just to buy into the 4 year old X79 platform. Point of this build is not to save every penny, but to build some damn fine systems to have a lot of fun with.

I know the server is way overkill for most of what it will do, but like I wrote in the opening post, I want to have the extra power available for when I might need it. Plus, the MoBo fits the color-scheme of the rest of the system, I want the end result to be something "Shiny" ;-)

I assume you mean "a hair smaller" performance-wise, just went with the newer here. Didn't do much research on SSDs other then the Samsung 840 was the one to go with, and I upgraded that to the 850. When performance gain is minimal I could save some money here.

The 5820 maybe slower then an 4790 but it does have two more cores, and those are more important in multiboxing. Plus I plan to overclock the systems anyway and will thus (hopefully) compensate the minor loss in Mhz.
I'm leaning toward getting the octacore myself so x99 there to.

Maybe I'll just get two "cheaper" 970s to start with, one for each system, just to have something in there, and then wait what nVidia bring us the next couple of months. Can always sell then when something better comes available, or put them in SLI in my wife's system when they perform satisfactory in her system.

What would you advice me to get, Corsair of G-skill DDR4?

To everybody else reading this, feel free to answer these or the question in my starting post.

Thanks

sPˊ!ˋKe

 

Rapajez

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Understood about the X99 platform, just throwing out some alternatives. Also, I was thinking the i7-5820 was a quad-core, scratch that. If you're going to actually use the extra cores, then yes, it's worth more. Core-per-core, it's actually 700MHz behind the 4790k at stock, so yes, OC that sucker. It also has a lot of the cache disabled, compared to the 5930/5960, but not sure if that's important in your case.



Yes, I meant the 850 is a hair behind the 840 EVO performance-wise. You probably wouldn't notice a difference unless they were side-by-side; especially if you're coming from an old SSD or HDD. The 850 does use more rugged "3D NAND", and come with a 10-year warranty, but unless you're constantly writing like 10GB of data to the drive a day, it shouldn't matter.

G-skill has a better RAM reliability, according to most reviews/independent failure ratings. It's usually up there with Crucial and Kingston. Corsair isn't bad, but I'd buy from any of the 3 brands mentioned first.
 
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