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prodigyboss

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Am i missing anything? I already have a Monitor and Keyboard+Mouse



CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core $219.98

CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM $69.98

Motherboard ASRock Z97 EXTREME6 ATX LGA1150 $144.99

Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 $159.98

Storage Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" SSD $159.00

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $49.98

Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V $349.99

Case Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower $149.00

Power Supply EVGA 850W ATX12V / EPS12V $114.99

Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $16.99

Total: $1462.54
 
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Many people don't understand oc isn't just about top end fps. It's about raising your minimum fps. Now to answer your question, let's say I'm playing at 1440p with a 60hz monitor IPS or PLS. If I get 55 fps on a game maxed on ultra , all I need is that oc to push me to the max 60 fps+.
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Get Windows 8.1 for sure, it is a better OS underneath and rumours are you'll be able to upgrade to Windows 10 for free from 8.1 (rumours... take it with a grain of salt). Plus, if you find you can't cope with ModernUI, just buy Start8 for like $5. It gives you a Windows 7 like start menu, and you get all the underlying benefits of Windows 8.1.

Also, is this just for gaming? If it were me, I'd be inclined to drop to 2x4GB RAM and a Crucial MX100 256GB SSD, which would be more than enough to step up to a 4790K. You get significantly higher clock speeds at stock AND hyperthreading. You'd be very hard pressed to distinguish the MX100 from 840 Pro anywhere outside of benchmarks, the extra 8GB RAM does very little for you unless you're doing content creation (in which case the 4790K becomes an even better idea), and you can always add extra RAM down the track without throwing anything away.

Admittedly, for gaming, there isn't much benefit for the i7 at the moment. But I do think it'd stay competitive for longer in future without costing you much.

It's just a suggestion/something to think about. Your build as-is is solid.
 
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If you want the advantages of an i7 you can get a Xeon 1231 V3 which performs identically to a locked i7 without the integrated graphics yet costs $50 less (goes for around $250).

If you want benchmarks:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-Hardware-154106/Tests/Xeon-E3-1230-v3-Test-1099616/

But really an i5 will do and also be fairly cheaper as well. You can pick up an i5 4440 for around $175.
 
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I'm guessing with the unlocked processor, 850W PSU and high end air cooler that the OP is looking for a substantial OC, which wouldn't be possible with a Xeon. Granted though, if she/he is looking to save money on the build dropping down to the locked i5 you suggest and ditching the air cooler would save a bunch of cash without really impacting game performance.

Plenty of good options depending on what OP is looking for.
 
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I plan on overclocking my CPU and GPU. After doing research on benchmarks comparing i5 4690k OC and non OC, I greatly see a difference in performance. If you have proof otherwise, please share.
 
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Benchmarks can be tweaked to show a difference between OC and stock CPUs. I think the point RazerZ is making, is that in real-world it hardly matters.

Remember that most monitors are rated at 60hz, i.e. display 60 frames per second regardless of what the computer is sending. Sure, OCing the CPU may take the game from 130fps to 150fps... but it won't make any difference as the monitor is locked at 60. If you have a 120 or 144hz monitor, that's a different story and sometimes a CPU OC will start to make a difference. But there's very few situations where you'll be held to under 60 frames per second by your CPU.

My suggestion for looking at the i7 was really around longevity. It won't make a difference now but may give you an extra year or two before an upgrade is required down the track. You could make the same case for overclocking. The extra bit of performance might buy you a year or two longer before your rig isn't giving up to the job anymore.

It depends what you want to do. You could actually save a bit of cash without losing much, or spend a bit more now and (probably) keep the computer relevant for longer. I say probably because no one really knows what will be important for gaming in the future.
 
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I'm not sure where you're seeing that overclocking the CPU makes a difference, but for the past two generations, Haswell and Ivy Bridge, overclocking barely has brought any noteworthy performance increase. Most benchmarks out there will either show an increase of a few fps or nothing at all.

Make sure the benchmarks you look at is for the actual fps, not a system score. Really the only people that buy unlocked processors such as the 4690k are either performance enthusiasts who overclock for a hobby, or people that really don't know any better (no offense, just trying to help you make the right decision) as they are venturing into the tech world for the first time.

Overclocking your graphics card is a different story. Depending on the GPU, overclocking CAN actually make a difference.
 
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I plan to eventually have MSI GTX 970 SLI . With that I plan on overclocking the pair. You don't think my i5 4690k will bottleneck my SLI overclocked?
 
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Many people don't understand oc isn't just about top end fps. It's about raising your minimum fps. Now to answer your question, let's say I'm playing at 1440p with a 60hz monitor IPS or PLS. If I get 55 fps on a game maxed on ultra , all I need is that oc to push me to the max 60 fps+.
 
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