Would this $600 PC outrun and look better than the PS4 and Xbone?

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Ok its a little more than $600, but I made this PC with PC part picker. I was wondering would this PC look better than next gen consoles.

CPU

Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor
$109.97

Cooler Master DP6-9EDSA-0L-GP CPU Cooler
$9.99

Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
$51.34 $51.34

Memory

Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
$78.24 $78.24 Amazon


Western Digital RE3 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
$70.00 Amazon


EVGA GeForce GTX 760 4GB Dual FTW ACX Video Card
$249.99 Newegg


Enermax Hoplite ST ATX Mid Tower Case
$36.99

CoolMax 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
$29.78 Newegg

Total Price: 636.30


 
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$640 budget? This is enough for a strong gaming build w/ quality parts:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.94 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB...
$600 budget is enough for a i5 gaming build w/ good case and a great psu:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $597.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-21 00:41 EDT-0400
 

Vynavill

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I do prefer filippi's build more, as the 270x could literally be considered a 760 without GPU-handled physx for a lower price...
IMO, physx just adds useless clutter most of the times.

It does lack an aftermarket CPU cooler, and a Micro-ATX MoBo in a mid tower feels weird (although admittedly, it's quite good), but you can look for another case yourself, and you can get a good aftermarket cooler for as low as 30 bucks; the Hyper 212 EVO is so spread and well known for its price-performance rate that it's easily found on sale for such a price, if not lower.
 

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kdxj5

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I guess I did overprice the graphics card. I do like physx though. It provides more of a next gen experience in my opinion. BTW how does the Radeon R9 270X 4GB compare to the GTX 760? The R9 270X is about $70 cheaper
 

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No offense, but percentiles are as good as a steaming pile of..."biological waste". They're a good way to get a general idea of how something will run, I won't deny that, but we all know how reality always falls more or less far from reviews and benchmarks.
Besides, that 10% is probably given by Physx being handled by the GPU, and for a 70$ difference it's nothing too consistent :p



If you took the 270x, you would have to set Physx to low or disabled in any game featuring them, and you'll need the i5 due to that as well.
Any AAA game heavily relying on them (practically any Ubisoft game which hasn't Rayman-level graphics...) may not run up to expectations, and may force you to lower some details.
Most games will run fine at the right settings, and might run better with some tweaking.

If Physx is a must, then the 760 is more than fine, but I'm not sure the i3 will hold it up. I'm probably wrong, but I'm getting the feeling that heavyweight games (or those particularly oriented towards CPU usage) will be slightly bottlenecked; mostly they'll run fine anyway.
If you can do without Physx, I'd take the 270x; your choices may be limited on those games heavily using them, but it's one hell of a money saver if you're on a strict budget.
 


A "general idea" is all I intended it to be, but in admitting that you somewhat contradict yourself by then claiming the reality "always" falls short.

And I trust very few reviewers btw, TPU being the most trusted IMO. W1zzard not only writes tools like GPU-Z and CPU-Z, he's extremely careful about benching each GPU identically. And he'll be the first to tell you mileage can vary, which has more to do with the games you play and the chip and overall card variances than the way he does his reviews.

Your preaching common sense my friend, which is something most avid PC players have when talking such tech. What I don't get is the extreme pessimism and waffling.

 

kdxj5

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NZ3GdC

CPU

Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor
$194.99 -$10.00 FREE $184.99 Newegg
+ USD $10 off w/ promo code 1021HWTM65, ends 10/27

CPU Cooler

Cooler Master DP6-9EDSA-0L-GP CPU Cooler
$9.99


Motherboard

Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
$54.99 -$10.00 FREE $44.99 Newegg

Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
$68.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
$59.98

Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card
$214.99 -$20.00 FREE $194.99

Enermax Hoplite ST ATX Mid Tower Case
$36.99

Power Supply

CoolMax 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
$34.99 -$10.00 $4.79 $29.78 Newegg

$625.70

So I took the best of both worlds of mine and filippis builds and made a PC about $5 less than my original. I think this is a very balanced PC that could run AAA games on ultra with little problems. I stuck with the Geforce GTX out of preference.
 

Vynavill

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@Frag Maniac
(Before I start hijacking the thread, I answered via PM)

@RCguitarist
I agree on the PSU, but Powercolor's not that bad if you're on a tight budget...
There's better obviously, but it's not like they're pure junk, from what I've heard. They don't fail on you as soon as you play anything heavier than Commander Keen on them, at least :D
 


Start? Oh so that blatant disrespect for percentages, which is a common thing in well done benches, hadn't already stirred the pot?

1. I talk on topic with such things, I have nothing to hide on the subject, and it could help others.

2. I don't typically like people escalating conversations, then littering my PM box.

Just a head's up.

As I mentioned, TPU's staff are some of the better at evaluating all things gaming. They have a science to it, and part of that science like it or not involves percentages, which help people get a better general idea. Like you were talking about before your point of view went on a tangent.

Now, if I can get back to the thread without any further interruptions. As far as brands go, and even support, sticking to ASUS, EVGA, MSI, XFX and even Giga doesn't always guarantee a worry free experience. Often times the vendor you deal with is more important.

 

kdxj5

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Lets try to be civil here guys. Theres a thousand and one ways to make a PC. I went with the Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply which only cost 15 more dollars than the original. My total comes out to $640 which is still $10 less than my max.
 

Vynavill

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If you don't plan on overclocking, the builder series (a.k.a CX) will be ok, but they're otherwise not much good in terms of build and material quality.
If you're looking at corsair, you want a GS PSU.

Alternatives could be XFX (pro/core/TS series) on that price range, which should be more reliable than the Builders. If you're lucky, you might also find sales for a better model; for example, I think I saw one of these on newegg for a Rosewill Capstone 550 80+ gold PSU, going for 75$ rather than 100$.

As RCguitarist said, going cheap on the PSU will likely yield wasted money in repair operations as a result.
 


$640 budget? This is enough for a strong gaming build w/ quality parts:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.94 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280 3GB IceQ OC Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $642.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-22 11:30 EDT-0400
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($167.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.45 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card ($222.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($38.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $611.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-10 00:56 EDT-0400
 

Vynavill

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I'm sure he meant well :p
We can all make some errors and ignore that the last post has been written more than 6 months ago.

Besides that, while it's an updated build and for anyone else who might stumble upon this, I still think yours is better filippi. The CX PSUs aren't exactly that much reliable (not to mention I would go for 700w at least with a 290/290x), and there's no reason in getting an H81 when we're so close to Skylake, unless you were truly desperate on getting lower prices. I mean, nowadays a good H/Z97 can be bought for slightly more that that, if one didn't want to wait for the new CPU line, but at least it would allow one to switch up to a better Haswell i5/i7 in the future.
On the other hand, a 290/290x is a much more viable choice right now over a 280x, considering the price drops and the performance levels it can reach (albeit I wouldn't choose a PowerColor).

Just my two cents tho...