AMD A10-7850K or AMD FX 8370? PCIe 3.0 Motherboard?

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Hello, I need a bit of advise on which build to choose. Thanks in advance!
a) AMD A10-7850K with a Motherboard which supports PCIe 3.0?
b) AMD FX 8370 with either a Motherboard which does not support PCIe 3.0, or one that does?
Honestly, I will have this build for at least the next 2 years. I will only be able to make upgrades to it. In other words which of these is likely better handle future upgrades? (sockets AM3+ or FM2+? & a motherboard which does or does not support PCIe 3.0?) I've been reading about how the am3+ socket for FX series is outdated; does that mean that newer AMD processors will not utilize this socket? Do you think they will utilize the FM2+ socket?
And finally, out of curiosity, if I go with a PCIe 3.0 MOBO, with which processor will the R9 280X run best?
Thanks again!

UPDATE: As was noted, placing a budget would help. I am looking at a maximum of $270 for both the CPU & Motherboard (that's with out mail-in-rebates).
Also, since an A series processor would bottleneck the R9 280X, would going with a lower-end FX series (ie, 8370E* or 8350) make much a difference? Especially considering that both FM2+ and AM3+ will soon come to an end, and upgrading will require a new CPU & Motherboard.
As a side-note, would a 4th Gen Intel i5 be best in this case? & would the socket type remain active for a couple of years? (in other words: If I wanna upgrade, will I be able to keep the motherboard?) Do you know of any deals for a i5/MOBO combo for < $270?
Thanks a bunch! Was not expecting such detailed responses in such a short amount of time, thanks again!
 
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I'd rather go with i5 instead of either of the current choices, AM3+ platform is dead, the future CPUs will likely not support it. And FM2+ is primarily for APUs, A10 will bottleneck the 280X.

PCIe 2.0 and 3.0 don't make a difference, as linked above. Also, FX 8 will not bottleneck the 280X but it's not worth to get it right now, i5 will edge it out (even after OCing) in 99% of games.
 
Really impossible to give advice without knowing the TOTAL BUDGET for the system.

However, getting an APU does not make sense when getting a dedicate graphics card. An APU is a CPU + GPU but the GPU would be deactivated when using a card like the R9-280X.

I prefer Intel, but based on someone's gaming budget I recently recommended THIS combo:

1) CPU: FX-6300 ($99 USD)

2) Graphics: R9-280X ($240 USD) http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280xdc2t3gd5

The AMD card also came with three free games chosen from a list for roughly a $100 value. So some pros and cons. A half decent i5-4xxx is about $100 more so if the budget had no more wiggle room that would mean you'd have $100 less for the graphics card so it's all about the best BALANCE of parts which again is why I can't make recommendations without a total budget.

It's not easy to pick the optimal build as games also vary a lot on how much a particular CPU may cause bottlenecking. Future games should use the six cores of the FX-6300 better so there's that aspect and current games like Sniper Elite III with Mantle can reduce CPU bottlenecking caused by weaker CPU's.

To be clear, if you can manage to fit in an i5-4440 and an R9-280 or better (along with the rest of the parts) I'd probably recommend that instead of an AMD CPU and a better graphics card.

I'd suggest using PCPARTPICKER as a guide.
 

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UPDATE: As was noted, placing a budget would help. I am looking at a maximum of $270 for both the CPU & Motherboard (that's with out mail-in-rebates).
Also, since an A series processor would bottleneck the R9 280X, would going with a lower-end FX series (ie, 8370E* or 8350) make much a difference? Especially considering that both FM2+ and AM3+ will soon come to an end, and upgrading will require a new CPU & Motherboard.
As a side-note, would a 4th Gen Intel i5 be best in this case? & would the socket type remain active for a couple of years? (in other words: If I wanna upgrade, will I be able to keep the motherboard?) Do you know of any deals for a i5/MOBO combo for < $270?
Thanks a bunch! Was not expecting such detailed responses in such a short amount of time, thanks again!
 

Hogomolo

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UPDATE: As was noted, placing a budget would help. I am looking at a maximum of $270 for both the CPU & Motherboard (that's with out mail-in-rebates).
Also, since an A series processor would bottleneck the R9 280X, would going with a lower-end FX series (ie, 8370E* or 8350) make much a difference? Especially considering that both FM2+ and AM3+ will soon come to an end, and upgrading will require a new CPU & Motherboard.
As a side-note, would a 4th Gen Intel i5 be best in this case? & would the socket type remain active for a couple of years? (in other words: If I wanna upgrade, will I be able to keep the motherboard?) Do you know of any deals for a i5/MOBO combo for < $270?
Thanks a bunch! Was not expecting such detailed responses in such a short amount of time, thanks again!

(I'm not quite sure how to reply to all, or if that is possible.. sorry for posting twice)
 


CPU: i5 4460,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302

MoBo: H97M Pro4,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512

MoBo is CFX capable. Now, take the upgrability like this:

After a couple years, you want to upgrade on AM3+, but with 99% certainity I can tell there will be no better options to upgrade to, atleast performance wise. On the other hand, you can go for a Xeon or i7 with H97, or even upcoming Broadwell, which will be better than any FX currently.

LA1150 is an active socket, will be up for a couple years, Haswell and Broadwell are based off it. And AM3+ is an old socket, 3 years old, and isn't as active. FX 9 is crap, and you'd need a $150 MoBo to support it anyways, without any performance difference over FX 8 whatsoever. So what are you left with for upgrade with AM3+? Unless AMD launches a dream CPU based on this socket (which's a 1% possiblity), nothing much to upgrade to.
 
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