IPS or TN for my new build?

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Hey guys, I read so many things online about the advantages of the IPS over the TN and vice versa, but, basically, if you want to do gaming, then go for TN because it has no ghosting, and everything else is better on IPS. obviously the problem is that I do quite alot of photoshopping and editing and other things, BUT I also want to game as well. also the TN I hear with working normaly on the pc not gaming hurts the eyes more than the IPS? I really don't wanna spend money on a monitor and then it giving me a headache I hate that, so, what is the middle point? any recommendations on good IPS monitors for gaming as well? and is the TN so bad without the gaming?
 
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I wouldn't say TN is the best for gaming. if you're at tournament level FPS or RTS, sure, but a lot of casual gamers can't tell the difference beyond a 60 or so refresh rate. the two biggest draw for TN panels are price (lower end ones are super cheap), and fast response / refresh rate. no IPS panel will hit 1ms response or 144hz.

if you enjoy MMOs, turn based games, or RPG and puzzle games, the better color reproduction of an IPS panel is far superior to TN.

all in all, it really comes down to how you want to game or use your monitor.
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i mean, if youre not really nitpicky and not a professional gamer, you might be happy with an IPS panel? i know that i have a 1080p TN and a good buddy of mine has a 1080p IPS and i would take his over mine any day. unless youre looking for ultra fast response times, i wouldnt sweat the choice too much. id have to say i would buy an IPS if i was in the market for a new panel. the picture generally just looks nicer to my eyes
 

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TN is good for gaming, yes. They have monitors that go up to 144 hz that is very good for FPS games for faster response times. But if your hardware can't even produce enough FPS, then it doesn't really matter. You've just wasted your money.

IPS panel is better in my opinion. They've got one of the best monitors in the market. But that's just my opinion. You'd have to look into any store that sells monitors and see for yourself. That's the only way you can see which ones better.
 
I wouldn't say TN is the best for gaming. if you're at tournament level FPS or RTS, sure, but a lot of casual gamers can't tell the difference beyond a 60 or so refresh rate. the two biggest draw for TN panels are price (lower end ones are super cheap), and fast response / refresh rate. no IPS panel will hit 1ms response or 144hz.

if you enjoy MMOs, turn based games, or RPG and puzzle games, the better color reproduction of an IPS panel is far superior to TN.

all in all, it really comes down to how you want to game or use your monitor.
 
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For general use I would definitely recommend a good IPS monitor. But for gaming it does have some problems. If you are a dedicated gamer, then I would suggest one of the 144 Hz, 1ms lag-time gaming monitors. I have the Asus VG248 144Mhz monitor. I like it. Then I have it hooked up to my Plasma HDTV as well.
 

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THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE AWESOME ANSWERS.

i know my answer now, it'd definitely an IPS, because I definitely am not a professional or a hardcore gamer, and I want to explore different kinds of games other than fps as well, thanks to all of you! :)
 


144hz TN displays are not just for pro/hardcore gamers. People seem to think these displays are so you can be more competitive, which may be somewhat true, but that is not what makes 144hz TN panels great for gaming. It makes games feel smoother, less sluggish, less blurry and will lack tracers (in high contrast situations, poor response times leads to a sort of trailing colors to show up on moving objects).

Those advantages are most obvious in any game in which you turn a lot, or the screen is changing rapidly. That includes RPG's, FPS, Action and other games.

Anyways, on the desktop IPS wins, but in game, most games, a 144hz TN panel would win IMO.
 

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Yeah, what you're saying is correct, but it just sucks because I can't let go of my other stuff on pc like photoshop or anime or movies or tv shows, but I also want to game a lot more once I finish building the pc, like how bad is the ghosting on the IPS monitors?
 
how "bad" IPS is for gaming depend on how sensitive you are to "flicker" or non-continuous moving images. this is somewhat correlated to getting that "sick" feeling at a 3D movie. the people who "feel" sick are sensitive enough to be bothered by the combination of the slow frame-rate in 3D

Personally, I've always been one of the people seen as "slow" to respond. I've owned both 144hz, 120hz, 60hz, hell even 48hz. and when doing a BLIND test, I can't tell the difference between them at all. you can give me a 144HZ monitor and I'd sell it to buy a cheaper IPS panel and call it better. but this is me, PERSONALLY. relative to the norm, I am way below average in terms of reflexes and my mind is really good at ignoring skipping images. this is NOT true for everyone. definitely something you have to test to really know for sure. who knows, you could be at the extreme other end and can differentiate between 144hz and 120hz.

I'll say this, the normal range for human perception is at somewhere a little above 60fps or so. you can perceive more during an adrenaline rushed intense fight.
 

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you see, I can't give up my photoshop and anime and movie watching, but I also want to game alot more than I do now once I finish my build, so I am probably gonna be satisfied with an IPS monitor, yea, so thanks alot for your response. I just can't give up the color accuracy and the angle views because those are very important to me even tho gaming is that important as well, and I noticed my eyes hurt with a monitor without that color accuracy so yea. Thanks :)
 
IMHO, we're splitting hairs here at the end of the day. it wasn't too long ago that anyone would be happy gaming on a TN monitor with accurate colors, 60hz, at full HD.

if you want to do photoshop, IPS is the way to go, the color accuracy will do wonders for you. as for anime and movie watching, you honestly won't notice much of a difference between a good TN or IPS monitor. good luck with your purchase! and if you get a chance, have them demo a 144hz TN panel in stores before you decide on the IPS (I am trying hard to be neutral here!)

Update: just FYI, if you have the cash, Dell ultrasharp IPS monitors are a tried and true brand for enthusiasts and professionals. alternatively, I recently purchased this guy from BenQ, and have been VERY happy with it (mainly due to the 1:3000 insane contrast ratio)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/benq-bl3200pt-qhd-monitor,3898.html
 

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Yeah I was thinking about that, and that's what I probably will actually do, when I go to buy it, I'll have them sample both monitors for myself to see, and then decide for the final purchase! thanks so much! :)
 


I don't get the flicker reference, as there really is no flicker involved with either tech, but the rest makes some sense. Low FPS does cause choppier play, and hz also results in less smooth play. I personally get sick from gaming at FPS below 85 without 85hz or better. Though it's not bad at 60, but I will be laid out on my bed if I game at 40 FPS for 20 mins, trying not to vomit if it's a 1st person game (Crysis 1 and Far Cry 1 were brutal, as I liked the games, but was constantly feeling sick).

But you did mention one other aspect that should be highlighted a bit. Visually, the difference between 60 and 144hz isn't large, at least if the screen isn't rapidly changing on you due to turning and what not, but the responsiveness when moving your view with a mouse is much better. That feel of being connected to your view is what is the biggest difference for me. Though this may not matter nearly as much with a controller, but the mouse makes you feel far more connected to the game at high FPS/hz.

The response times may or may not bother you. That isn't really related to the above at all. What response times does, is make every image clear and sharp while in motion. The better the response time, the easier it is for you to see detail on a moving object. Moving text across a screen with a great response time can be read, while it can't with a poor response time due to blur, yet you may still feel like the game is responsive if the FPS and hz is high.

Listening the OP's list of uses, he may prefer the IPS for most of his activities, so it may be the better way to go. I just wanted to make sure he realized what all the differences would mean for gaming.