default router ip address (192.168.1.1) works everywhere except on a host computer after getting new modem

delekhan

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OK I used to have standard setup with cable modem and wireless router. My cable modem died and person from cable network came and replaced the old one with the new one, which is not only a modem but also a router! So I checked both routers (the new modem-router and the old router) and found out that the old router has the better signal strength than the new one, so I opted out to use the new modem as the router. Btw the modem-router is Cisco EPC3925, so I clicked "disable wireless" and then "log off" and now it all goes through my old router as I wanted, but the problem is I can't access that same router via 192.168.1.1. and I don't know why! I can access it from my second computer and from my phone, but not from my host computer. It just keeps loading and nothing happens.

So the new router-modem loads fine (its ip address is 192.168.0.1.), but the old router that I use doesn't. What do I have to do to be able to log into my old router from my host computer?

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delekhan

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@jinksy: Under the default gateway it says 192.168.0.1 which is the new router/modem, not the old one :(

@kanewolf: Yeah I think you're right, my old router is no longer access point so I'll try to do as you said.
I logged in to my old router from my phone and there is a thing called "static routing" and there are 3 fields I need to fill: Destination IP address, subnet mask, and default gateway. Is that what you were reffering to? (sorry, I am not an expert for this wifi stuff)
 

kanewolf

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Yes. You want to give your "old router" a static IP address, that you can always get to if you need to tweak something. You would set the IP address to something in the same RANGE as your new router's DHCP server -- BUT not overlapping. You will have to log into the "Lan Setup" page of your new router. Check the "Starting Address" and "Number of Users" those two things are the limits of the DHCP server range. Pick a static IP address that isn't the new routers and isn't in the DHCP range. IF the number of users is 200 or some large number you can drop it back to a more reasonable 100. That should leave plenty of room for static IP addresses. The subnet mask is "255.255.255.0" and the default gateway should be the new router (192.168.0.1).
If you have trouble accessing your old router after this, you can always factory reset it and start over. Google your old router model and "access point" to find instructions specific to your router.
 

delekhan

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OK thanks for breaking it down for me but you will need to break it down even more as I have the network knowledge of an average grandma.

I didn't really understand which destination IP address I should choose, is it OK if I choose 192.168.2.1? Because whatever ip address i choose that goes like 192.168.1.x or 192.168.0.x I get this error

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Here is the LAN setup of new modem. I also clicked on "connected devices summary" button (don't know if that helps).

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So please accept the honor and choose the Destination IP address for me as I can't choose correctly. Thanks.
 

delekhan

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The name is TP-Link WR340G. Thanks man!!!

EDIT: I tried googling and it only made me 10 times more confused. But if I understood well this router apparently doesn't have an option to make it an access point, but it does have some "bridge" option which should be used instead (?). It is all just way too complicated for me. Doesn't matter if you don't find out, I'll just leave it as it is. I will use the phone when I want to access it and all will be fine.
 

kanewolf

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That TP-Link is a REALLY old router. That is still a wireless "G" router rather than an "N". Compared to your Cisco, you will probably be disappointed in the performance. It is probably time to ditch the boat anchor, and buy an inexpensive replacement. Linksys has refurb models for $30. It is a dual band (2.4 and 5Ghz) and has an easy tutorial on configuring it as an access point.

My recommendation... cut your losses...
 

delekhan

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Yeah I might buy something newer but this router served me well and it has strong signal (stronger than this new they gave me). I don't need anything more than good signal, no? With the new one I get 2-3 lines for connection and the old one 3-4 for the computer in other room (I guess b/c new one doesn't have an external antenna (?) and (this I don't have to guess) because it is the cheapest router in the world since they gave it for free)

Btw that Linksys you recommended me.. where I live it costs ~ 95 in US dollars so I guess I will have to wait for that discount to come here (but that will be probably never lol).

OK since you know this stuff: when I want to buy a new router and I am interested in good signal strength what specs do I need to look for?
 

kanewolf

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Routers with external antennas can have benefits. You can upgrade the antenna for a higher gain antenna. The Asus routers are good. I have two of them configures as access points.

OUCH for $95 for a $30 router ... Look for an N600 router and then check the web to see if you can toggle it to an access point.
 
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