FX 8320 vs 6350 vs 8350

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Hey guys, I'm about to build a budget rig. I'll only buy from Amazon as I do not live on the US and Newegg doesn't allow me to buy without an US credit card. Currently I have a 900p monitor but plan to buy a 1080p one in the near future. So, I have the following questions:
1) Title. I'm aware 8350 is the worst performance/price of the three but the best performance wise.
2) If I go for the 8320 that $20 difference might let me go for the Asus R9 280x instead of the MSI R9 280. So which would be better? FX-8320+ASUS R9 280x or FX-8350+MSI R9 280 or FX-6350+EVGA GTX 770?
4) Are AMD's GPUs too unreliable? I live in Argentina, so reliability is a deal-breaker for me since getting a defective-damaged unit would mean throwing it away because of no international warranties and couldn't afford the shipping back plus the taxes I'd have to pay due to Argentina's policies.
5) Do you think Intel's price will go down now that the 5th generation arrived? If yes, should I wait until then to buy a CPU? Since I most likely won't have it finished by then anyway, would it be wise to wait until then and try to grab an Intel CPU as their prices drop instead of an AMD's?
6) Same with RAM memories. Do you expect them to drop in price when DDR4 comes out?

I think that's all questions I've got. I'm sorry for the big wall of text as well as any mistake as I'm not a native speaker.

Cheers

EDIT: Forgot to mention. It'd be mostly for gaming although I'm going to study programming next year.
 
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I've changed my mind (can I do that? :) )

With the R9 290s tumbling below $300, I'd jump on one and pair it with an FX-6300. With the 990FX -UD3, that should be a sweet combination.

I suspect some of the complaints on the 280X are legitimate ... other complaints on it, not so much. I've seen reports of BIOS updates (or volt bumps) fixing the artifacting/tearing issues, but also some folks noting the HSFs on some cards hardly contact the VRAMs, leading to over-heating.

There seem to be workarounds for most issues on the Radeons .... or, you could keep an eye out for those GTX 780s hitting the $300 mark :lol:

There is no such thing as too much video card, eh? :D

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2.Definitely the 8320+280x.
The 8320 is considerably stronger than the 6350, and only a touch below the 8350. It's basically an underclocked 8350 anyway, and even basic overclocking will even them in no time.

4?. AMD GPUs are just as reliable as Nvidia ones, the real thing to look at is the sub-distributer such as EVGA or ASUS.
5. Most likely, but don't expect anything drastic.
6. Also possible, but there's no sure bets.
 
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I'm not sure I can answer you on performance per dollar. But I can reassure you that for programming any moden CPU will be fine for beginning programming. I'm a software developer and get along quite well on a dual core AMD. With that said, a fast hard drive improves things dramatically for me.
 
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Well, I mean I've seen a lot more of negative reviews (artifacting, overheating, etc.) on AMD's GPUs than on NVidia's tbh and even saw a couple of articles showing % of defective units for each brand and AMD was like 9% higher than NVidia. But yeah didn't trust those articles too much that's why I'm asking here
 
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Yea plan on getting a Gigabyte ud3 or an M5A99FX PRO R2.0, would love a Sabertooth 990FX but it's out of my league.
BTW, is it true that the Asus R9 280x is prone to overheating due to bad heat sink fan? Should I ask for HSF 2.0 specifically or previous versions are no longer on the market?
 
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I've changed my mind (can I do that? :) )

With the R9 290s tumbling below $300, I'd jump on one and pair it with an FX-6300. With the 990FX -UD3, that should be a sweet combination.

I suspect some of the complaints on the 280X are legitimate ... other complaints on it, not so much. I've seen reports of BIOS updates (or volt bumps) fixing the artifacting/tearing issues, but also some folks noting the HSFs on some cards hardly contact the VRAMs, leading to over-heating.

There seem to be workarounds for most issues on the Radeons .... or, you could keep an eye out for those GTX 780s hitting the $300 mark :lol:

There is no such thing as too much video card, eh? :D

 
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Yeah I kept an eye on the Gigabyte and MSI R9 290 ($255 and $275 respectively) but there's so many people complaining about overheats and artifacting I'd rather go for an EVGA GTX 770 ($270) and not worry about getting a defective unit.
The other alternative would be going for an Athlon X4 760K ($75) and a EVGA GTX 970 ($330) what do you think?
 
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I wouldn't say the 6300 is outdated without saying amd is outdated. in a lot of cases the 6300 is just about the same as the 8320/8350. it is surely worth its price which frequently goes under 100 usd during sales. it also depends what you use it for.

at the price of the 8350 or even 8320 you might as well get a cheap i5 or one of the nicer i3s which use much less power too.
 
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Yeah I know AMD FX 8xxx perform pretty much the same as some i3 and i5's but thing is I prefer an eight-six core CPU even though they are weak in a sense. I think they might have the upper hand towards the future and their price/performance ratio is pretty good.
Being honest, for gaming I'd much rather have an OK CPU with a very good video card than the other way around. So I think it's ok to go for an AMD CPU as they are pretty good for the price and saves me some budget towards a more powerful GPU.
 
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The Athlon 860K was on sale at $78 recently. It's not a bad option but would hold you back unless you plan to game above 1080p.

If the FX-6300 does not float your boat, the 95w FX-8320E would be my next choice, primarily because it will OC like a sum beech and the chips were 'baked' in the last 2-3 months.

 
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You mean below 1080p right?
The FX-8320E is an interesting choice but I don't really have any experience overclocking, I would probably manage it but dunno if $7 is worth it. Plus a CPU cooler is out of the question for now, I barely have enough for a GC+CPU let alone a CPU cooler.
Anyway. If you were me, with a $430 budget, which one of the following would you go for?
1. FX 6300 ($100, price went up a bit today) + EVGA GTX 970 ACX 4GB ($330) or SAPPHIRE R9 290 Vapor-X ($330)
2. FX 8320 ($143) + Sapphire R9 280X Dual-X ($260) or PNY GTX 770 2GB ($285) or MSI GTX 770 2GB ($283)
3. FX Athlon X4 760K ($75) + EVGA GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX ($349) or MSI R9 290X Twin Frozr 4GB ($366, going a bit over my budget on this one but I might handle it, would have to be by far most superior choice though to go for this otherwise not worth it)

Remember, reliability is VERY important if not the most important thing I look for. That's why I mainly choose Sapphire and EVGA.

Thanks again!
 
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I'll be playing in 1080p tho, not higher than that. At least not for the next 3-4 years, who knows what comes next.
But alright, I'll most likely go for #1. Thanks!

EDIT: forgot to ask you. Which one in your opinion? EVGA GTX 970 2GB or Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4GB?
 
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That was my mistake, no such thing as 2GB GTX 970. I finally bought the FX 8320 and the EVGA GTX 970, but the latter couldn't be shipped in time so I had to cancel the order :(

Anyways, since I'll have to wait until April 2015 to buy the rest of the components, I'll sell this processor and get an I7 4790K + Asus Z97M-Plus + EVGA GTX 970 (Reference cooler).
 
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I have 8320 and my friends has 8350.

1. Well my friend overclocked it to 5.0ghz obviously got bluescreen but he is still running it now somewhere around 4.5-4.6 so It is not that bad as price per performance if you going to overclock, but of course you will need aftermarket cooler which will make indeed worst of these 3.

2. probably this one in my opinion FX-6350+EVGA GTX 770 cause GPU is 10x more important for gaming

3. Not sure about this one

4.Even if the price goes down, will you really wait 6 months or even more hoping that price will drop, believe me you don't want to wait.

5. I asked this question before i built my pc, I asked it like 6 months ago and it still doesn't look like the prices gonna drop when it comes out any soon, stop waiting .


 
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