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upgrading to i7 4790k, need a mobo that does not require a BIOS update

So I am upgrading from an FX 6300 to an i7 4790 K. I don't have any other Intel processors so I need to make sure the motherboard i get does not require a bios update, or at least does not require a non refresh Haswell to do the BIOS update. My mobo budget is $200+-10%. Motherboards I have been looking at are the ASUS Sabertooth mark2, asus-a/pro, ud5h, Mpower... I want a nice one is the point. Last thing and is just a perk but wouldn't mind having wifi integration on the mobo.
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  1. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-sabertoothz97mark2

    Will work just fine with an i7 4790k.. it lists about $183.
  2. Basically any 87 boards will need an update but any 97 chip set boards will not. Brighttail's suggestion is pretty good otherwise ASUS z97 Pro (wifi) is about $210 with wifi

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97prowifiac
  3. I was pretty sure the z97 motherboards don't need the update but reviews on some websites had me a little scared about that. I do like overclocking so stability is a must. Also wont be water cooling as my case (ostrog gt) apparantly doesnt fit the rads like they claim.
  4. TweeDoor said:
    I was pretty sure the z97 motherboards don't need the update but reviews on some websites had me a little scared about that. I do like overclocking so stability is a must. Also wont be water cooling as my case (ostrog gt) apparantly doesnt fit the rads like they claim.


    Well just checked both the mentioned boards need the second BIOS update to run that CPU. At this point they should be shipping with that update but if not they both have EZFlash 2 which lets you update the bios from the bios

    Not 100% sure that will work but should if not you can always call ASUS they used to send out BIOS chips for situations like that.
  5. Does the Mpower max ever go sub $200?
  6. TweeDoor said:
    Does the Mpower max ever go sub $200?


    The MSI board? I doubt it That's one of their top of the line boards. On sale its usually around $220.
  7. I figured, thanks for the replies. I found the ud5h bk for $185, is there anything comperable?
  8. TweeDoor said:
    I figured, thanks for the replies. I found the ud5h bk for $185, is there anything comperable?



    That is a nice mid level motherboard i still like Asus Sabertooth Mark 2, tho one draw back is highest memory you can use is 1866. The Asus Z97-A is a bit cheaper, good motherboard all around and allows up to 3100Mhz.

    http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97a I see it at $155
  9. Ya one of the reasons for leaving amd was for the poss.. of faster ram. Really like the idea of thermal radar too. It's a tuff decision holy cow... Would the pro be better(heatsinks)?
  10. Best answer
    I honestly went with the Asus 97 Hero VII. It is a bit more expensive, but I like the extras that came with the Republic of Gamers line. Thermal Radar is nice but not really necessary. Honestly the only reason to have the sabertooth in my opinion is if you are going to shell out the extra for the Mark 1 version with the "armour" and "dust protectors" In the end my Hero works perfectly fine and if I had to go lower, I'd have chosen the z97-a for the higher Ram Speeds. The -a versions are Asus' line that has a little of everything in it but no big stuff like Wifi.

    The hero at newegg is $204 right now which is pretty damn good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132125
  11. Is that a sale price? I know thats a fave of many people, does it have an ez flash bios? And it seemed like 1/3 of the reviews were negative but when it was a good board there was nothing better for the price. Thanks for the help by the way, no one i personally know knows a lick about performance pc parts .
  12. Not sure if it is a sale price but that is the price now. It does have the easy flash BIOS.

    No worries we were all green when it came to computers at one point or another.
  13. If i go for the hero, ill have to drop the noctua 14 air cooler i was ganna get for something $20+ cheaper. Is there a good air cooler for around $60?
  14. TweeDoor said:
    If i go for the hero, ill have to drop the noctua 14 air cooler i was ganna get for something $20+ cheaper. Is there a good air cooler for around $60?


    The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO usually about $30 or so.
  15. TweeDoor said:
    If i go for the hero, ill have to drop the noctua 14 air cooler i was ganna get for something $20+ cheaper. Is there a good air cooler for around $60?


    Good call, happy to be of help!
  16. I have the 212 on my current fx 6300 and it does extremely well. I just wanted something beefier for the i7 (that will fit in the ostrog gt) as it gets much hotter. Also, is there a good air cooler that wont block ram and/or a pci-e slot?
  17. TweeDoor said:
    I have the 212 on my current fx 6300 and it does extremely well. I just wanted something beefier for the i7 (that will fit in the ostrog gt) as it gets much hotter.


    The TDP on the FX-6300 is actually higher than the 4790K at stock meaning the 6300 runs hotter.

    6300: 95W
    4790K: 88W
  18. Avoid GA-Z97X-Gaming G1. I'm gonna hit Maximus tomorrow, can update the thread.
  19. I'm pretty sold on the Maximus 7 hero I just need to figure out what CPU cooler around $60 is going to fit in the Osterog GT without blocking RAM hopefully.
  20. I have seen i7's get to 70 plus degrees Celsius if my FX 6300 got to that it would
  21. TweeDoor said:
    I'm pretty sold on the Maximus 7 hero I just need to figure out what CPU cooler around $60 is going to fit in the Osterog GT without blocking RAM hopefully.
    According to specs You can hit it literally with anything. I personally suggest NH-D14 or 15, of viable in Your price range. But it's just because I use them everywhere and they perform the best. Bot have enough space for mid-high profile rams, not high profile rams. Btw. what modules are You gonna use in particular?
  22. TweeDoor said:
    I'm pretty sold on the Maximus 7 hero I just need to figure out what CPU cooler around $60 is going to fit in the Osterog GT without blocking RAM hopefully.


    You can always go this option:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181029
  23. Corsair vengeance 1600 cl9. Kinda high profile..

    EDIT: water coolers make me itch, i would be paranoid the pump would stop an i wouldn't catch it.
  24. TweeDoor said:
    I have seen i7's get to 70 plus degrees Celsius if my FX 6300 got to that it would


    Ahh yes that is the joys of OC Haswell. Basically heat becomes a problem real quick but you should still get 4.3-4.5 on it. If you want a better cooler the look at the D14 or D15 noctura there isn't really much else of mention except for water which is the ideal way to go.

    70C is alright for them about what they will run OCed at load
  25. TweeDoor said:
    Corsair vengeance 1600 cl9. Kinda high profile..

    EDIT: water coolers make me itch, i would be paranoid the pump would stop an i wouldn't catch it.
    yup, they're nearly the highest profile out there :/. Can't help here.

    Water cooling is fine, but I do preffer custom build, not these "all in one solutions". But they're pretty deadly when the pump stops working, that's also a fact. There's not passive block to take away the heat, and the temp can rise up really fast.

    Maybe if there was some interface for waterpump for You to notify...
  26. My wife just gave me an updated budget and it looks like I can swing the Noctua and the MSI mPower max. The wifi is there on that board right?and does this look good: 4790k, noctua air cooler w/msi Mpower MAX mobo?
  27. TweeDoor - I hate MSi, so I'm wrong person to ask :). I hit RMA 2-3x a week, with MSi VGAs and Mobos. In general people "love" em, because they are cheap and have some cool features, and use really high quality semiconductor components. But my experience is killing me. Though, I suggest to wait for someone elses reply, my is "dusted" by prejudice and really bad experience.
  28. TweeDoor said:
    My wife just gave me an updated budget and it looks like I can swing the Noctua and the MSI mPower max. The wifi is there on that board right?and does this look good: 4790k, noctua air cooler w/msi Mpower MAX mobo?


    I'm not a fan of MSI. I had suggested the Asus z97 Hero VII and that does not have WIFI if you wanted that from Asus you have to go to the Pro or Formula. Long threat pick a solution winner and good luck!
  29. Spectre694 said:
    TweeDoor said:
    I have the 212 on my current fx 6300 and it does extremely well. I just wanted something beefier for the i7 (that will fit in the ostrog gt) as it gets much hotter.


    The TDP on the FX-6300 is actually higher than the 4790K at stock meaning the 6300 runs hotter.

    6300: 95W
    4790K: 88W


    I've seen I7s get up to 80c on the cores. the Fx procs cannot get that hot. What i was thinking is that i've seen vids of people prime95ing their i7s and reaching 70s, 80s, sometimes 90c without watercooling so i was going to need extra good cooling to keep it in the same range (40-50c at load) as my fx. Even then i don't think a haswell can run that cool without custom loops. I may be wrong entirely though..
  30. Brighttail said:
    TweeDoor said:
    My wife just gave me an updated budget and it looks like I can swing the Noctua and the MSI mPower max. The wifi is there on that board right?and does this look good: 4790k, noctua air cooler w/msi Mpower MAX mobo?


    I'm not a fan of MSI. I had suggested the Asus z97 Hero VII and that does not have WIFI if you wanted that from Asus you have to go to the Pro or Formula. Long threat pick a solution winner and good luck!


    Ya getting long. I really want to make the right choice as i will not be able make such an upgrade for a while. I really like the hero, the board i want to get, but that means i need an additional wifi card which the msi doesn't need. If the msi just doesn't have the quality then i won't get it and will choose the hero and an aftermarket wifi adapter and be done. I have been really excited to get away from the msi 970a-g46 mobo, so like i said, I'm trying to take my time and get as much feedback as possible so i don't regret it later.
  31. If you are wanting wifi you can do this.. same price as the HERO but you lose some of the gaming functions

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132117&cm_re=z97-pro-_-13-132-117-_-Product

    You can check out the comparasin charts which shows you which each mobo has when it comes to features
    http://www.asus.com/us/site/motherboards/Z97/comparison/
  32. solved! will be getting the i7 4790k-asus maximus vii Hero-Noctua NH-14. +taking off one heatsink on my ram. Thank you all for the feedback, it is much appreciated. Reasons for getting the Hero: Better Bios, more usable features for a gamer, Clean look, Will be more feedback for needed information, Better voltage control(according to a few review sites), and some others. (all personal opinion)
  33. One more thing if anyone checks. I can get the cpu, cooler and mobo for $665 out the door. Is this a good deal or should i wait for Black friday sales?
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