upgrade to i7 or stay with 8350?

taogamer_50 · Oct 30, 2014

I am using my amd 8350 right now. I am recently doing 3D model and animation. I am asking if i should upgrade my cpu to an i7 for rendering and high graphic gaming. If yes, what should i get?

Warukyure · Oct 30, 2014

Do you want to overclock? If yes you should get k-series processors, if not, then the non-k ones are fine. The i7s would be much better than the FX-8350s. Now ultimately, for gaming the i7s vs the i5s for gaming don't really make too much of a difference. I think a lot of the tests show its only like a few fps gain going from an i5 to an i7. The 2 models you should consider is the i5-4690(K) or the i7-4790(K).

Brighttail · Oct 30, 2014

Also understand that if you do you will need to get a new motherboard as well. The I7 is going to be more powerful for your programs to be sure. So the quick answer to your question is yes, it would be worth it if you have the $ to do it.

taogamer_50 · Oct 30, 2014

I dont really oc cause it seems like a pain to me. Don't worry about the money much or else i wouldn't have asked haha. How is it on rendering? I use blenders and photoshop at the moment

Brighttail · Oct 30, 2014

The hypertheading will help you with your multiple apps and processes of course if money is no issue, you go full blown and do the X99 with new DDR4 ram and the i7 5930 or 5970 processors with 2-4 more cores. Intel has always been better for applications like these anyway so whether you do something like the I7-4790 or go higher you will be very happy with the increase of performance.

taogamer_50 · Oct 30, 2014

In your honest opinion. Is it worth the upgrade?

MrMeth · Oct 30, 2014

I am studying 3d animation right now and im learning 3DS Max , and I have a 8320@4ghz 32 gigs of ram . At school we have I7s with 8 gigs of ram and quadro video cards. When I do big renders of models and what not , the extra ram on my personal machine really pays off.If I was in your situation I would suggest for you to overclock your cpu and add more ram first and see how the performance is after that before you were to upgrade to an I7. If i were to purchase a new system today for 3D , I would be looking at the 4790 as the minimum or depending on the budget the 5820. I was actually contemplating on selling off my system and getting a 5820k with an x99 motherboard but the cost of ddr4 ram is whats holding me back right now. 32 gigs of ddr4 in 8 gig sticks like i have now would cost a small fortune

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Brighttail · Oct 30, 2014

Exactly, that is the other nice thing about the x99 boards you can go up to 64 GB of ram. Most people don't need more than 8 but when you are talking rendering.. well. My friend who works at Pixar has the top Intel computer with 8 cores, 2 980s in SLI with 32 gigs of dominator platinum RAM. She upgraded from an i7-4690 and for her personal 3d projects it is night and day. That b eing said she spent about 1000 on the ram, 1000 on the processor and 700 on the Motherboard..

MrMeth · Oct 30, 2014

Photoshop , primiere pro and especially after affects can use tons of memory if you let them. I am not familiar with blender but i know adobe can be a hog when it comes to ram , how much do you currently have ? what are your other system specs beside the cpu ? And in my honest opinion I think for someone who is doing allot of rendering the move to x99 platform would be worth it but the price of the amount of ram that you would have to purchase to benefit from your investment isn't. DDR 4 right now is stupid expensive right now.

taogamer_50 · Oct 30, 2014

I have 16gb of ram and asus R9 290X OC. Also, 750W if that matters. Which is better? 4790 or 5820? I don't know much about intel lol

Brighttail · Oct 30, 2014

The 4790 is used with the z97 chipset and is MUCH cheaper than the 5820 which is used with the x99 series. When I mean much cheaper.. the 5820 is going to be like 400 minimum for motherboard, 600 minimum for the CPU and at least 600 for 16 gbs of good DDR4 Ram. The z97, the CPU is 330 ish and a good motherboard is 250-350 and you can, if you want use the ram you currently have in.

The differences is the i7 4790 has 4 cores/8 threads.. the 5820 5970 ect has either 6 or 8 cores with lots more threads. YOu also have more lanes which allows you to run triple Video cards or if you want to go with the big boy chip you can do quad.

MrMeth · Oct 31, 2014

the 4790 & 5820 share the same haswell architecture , the 4790k is clocked at 4Ghz and the 5820 is clocked at 3.3ghz. The 5820 is a 6 core part with hyperthreading ( 6 physical cores and 6 virtual or software cores ) for a total of 12 threads where as the 4790 is 4 physical cores with 4 virtual cores for a total of 8 threads. The 5820 also has more L3 cache on the chip. 5820 15mb L3 cache vs 4790 8mb L3 cache. You should be able to overclock the 5820 at least to 3.6-3.8 and it should make up for its lower clock speed compared to the 4790.

Brighttail · Oct 31, 2014

Basically for what you want to do with it the 5820 or any of the x99 chips will do much much much better for 3d rendering and animations, but you gotta pay the steep price.

MrMeth · Oct 31, 2014

@brighttail the cheapest ram for ddr4 is anywhere from $250-300 for 2x8=16 gig kit , 5820 is 400 and cheapest x99 motherboard start at $260.00

mobo
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007626%20600533617&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

ram
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007610%20600521523%20600006072&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

cpu
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007670%2050001157%20600535697&IsNodeId=1&name=LGA%202011-v3

Brighttail · Oct 31, 2014

Sorry I'm working in canadian fund which are a bit more.

MrMeth · Oct 31, 2014

Im Canadian to

and those were off the Canadian newegg site , I don't order from newegg anymore cause i found a cheaper alternative but i still use there site allot for reviews

Powerbolt · Oct 31, 2014

No, you're fine with an FX 8350. Upgrading to an i7 definitely won't be worth your time or money. By the time you get a new motherboard, CPU, and presumably a cooler you'll be out several hundred bucks with sub-par performance increases to show for it.

MrMeth · Oct 31, 2014

powerbolt , I disagree I love amd and there bang for the buck but after waiting through some 6-7 hours rendering times If i had to rebuild my system today I would go Intel.

http://us.hardware.info/reviews/5599/9/intel-core-i7-5960x--5930k--5820k-haswell-e-review-8-cores-at-last-benchmarks-cinebench-115

http://us.hardware.info/reviews/5599/8/intel-core-i7-5960x--5930k--5820k-haswell-e-review-8-cores-at-last-benchmarks-adobe-photoshop-cs6

bartholomew · Oct 31, 2014

Personally, I'd wait for Broadwell, Skylake, Also AMD's upcoming excavator CPU(s) might be a worthy upgrade.

Powerbolt · Oct 31, 2014

MrMeth :

They're not rebuilding their system though. It's not economically feasible to dump several hundred dollars worth of hardware into a machine to gain a few seconds or minutes of rendering performance.

taogamer_50 · Nov 1, 2014

Yeah.... after having done research on intels cpu. I will wait for the broadwell to release and possibly amd steamroller or other new cpu. Thanks for the help guys

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