Does Windows hate me or something?

unplanned bacon · Oct 31, 2014

Every Windows machine I have owned has had problems. Some have been my fault, but others happen even before I've done anything (e.g. I can put my computer to sleep, come back and it will blue screen or I can have it working fine, shut it down come back the next day and it will hard crash. Or heres one, I can use it half an hour, go away and do something else, come back and find it's crashed. Those are all real examples by the way. Or perhaps the strangest one, a day 1 blue screen on an OEM laptop. All systems were clean of viruses and had no known hardware or driver issues

By contrast I've had two Apple products (well, 2 iPod touches and 2 Macbook Pros). No problems. The only thing I can say is my first iPod touch developed a fault/bug at the 11 month mark, I got it switched by Apple for a new one and that one has been on ever since, apart from when it runs out of battery. Still works like day 1, and it's three years old now (2 recorded crashes in history which it fixed itself by rebooting). The two Macs, not one issue. I actually returned one, because I thought there was an issue, then I thought about it and realised there actually wasn't. Point is still the same, not one problem that's ruined the experience

Eximo · Oct 31, 2014

Doesn't sound like you investigated these issues at the time with any depth.

Apple has such a small product line they can afford a lot of tweaking before releasing to the public.

Windows can be very stable on a good platform. Keep in mind they are supporting a nearly infinitely variable number of platforms, software, drivers, and hardware configurations.

When you have bluescreens you should look to Windows updates, drivers, and software updates. If it is hardware related, logs and error messages can be big clues to what is wrong. OEM computers are by no mean better, they often have cheaply made hardware so the vendor and supplier can save a buck.

unplanned bacon · Oct 31, 2014

Eximo :

On this everything is up to date except my WiFi driver
When 8 is working I can honestly say it's great (but still can't recommend it to anyone), but OSX 10.10 is better

Eximo · Oct 31, 2014

Well, might want to look into that. When it crashes, what do the Windows logs say was the faulting module? Have you turned off automatic restart so you can read/photograph the message?

unplanned bacon · Oct 31, 2014

Eximo :

For the BSODs? The last one was irql_not_less_or_equal
That was around August I think.

I've even had. Computer working fine that day, switch off, come back tomorrow, none of my apps work. Or working fine, reboot, Windows forgets where my screen is and shoves it to the right when the BIOS knows where it begins and ends (this problem occurs at the second Windows takes over, the BIOS is always displayed properly)

I got tired of spending half my time fixing Windows which is part of the reason why I'm typing on a Mac. 8 has been on each of hard drives on my system and now the SSD and has had different issues each time, some consistent. The only piece of hardware I don't know how to test is my board. I don't have a POST speaker, but given it boots I assume it's all good

Eximo · Oct 31, 2014

Apple is certainly a better ecosystem from the perspective of end user ease of use, but you lose a lot of capabilities when it comes to software. Always boot camp for dual booting to get Windows software these days.

You do pay a premium, but you get decent parts for the money with Apple. Assembled by Quanta and Foxconn, which are pretty reputable when it comes to mass production. With oversight from Apple, they have the money to back up the quality control.

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is usually related to memory and driver issues. Most often I have found these are power related or directly tied to failing memory and/or memory controllers. If you don't investigate at the time of the incident, it can be pretty hard to work your way back to the day it failed. OEM power supplies are amongst the cheapest that can physically do the job. Memory is bought in bulk in unmatched sets and they usually buy up new old stock. (You'll see them offer 'free' memory upgrades just to get rid of it)

BIOS hand-over to Windows really depends on the BIOS and the OEM's setup. Some machines do this very gracefully, others do not. I can tell you I have a Dell and an HP with me now. The Dell boots up, displays its logo in Full HD, then proceeds to Windows. The HP bounces between several different resolutions before making the hand off to Windows, where it resizes one last time. Very poorly done, and this is with the exact same Windows system image.

It sounds like you have been purchasing lower end PCs to me. I don't expect much out of them, which is why I build my own desktops. For Laptops I read reviews, but I don't use them for anything too complicated. Windows 8.1, with a VM for XP and a USB to Serial adapter for old hardware interface.

unplanned bacon · Oct 31, 2014

Eximo :

Apple is certainly a better ecosystem from the perspective of end user ease of use, but you lose a lot of capabilities when it comes to software. Always boot camp for dual booting to get Windows software these days.

You do pay a premium, but you get decent parts for the money with Apple. Assembled by Quanta and Foxconn, which are pretty reputable when it comes to mass production. With oversight from Apple, they have the money to back up the quality control.

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is usually related to memory and driver issues. Most often I have found these are power related or directly tied to failing memory and/or memory controllers. If you don't investigate at the time of the incident, it can be pretty hard to work your way back to the day it failed. OEM power supplies are amongst the cheapest that can physically do the job. Memory is bought in bulk in unmatched sets and they usually buy up new old stock. (You'll see them offer 'free' memory upgrades just to get rid of it)

BIOS hand-over to Windows really depends on the BIOS and the OEM's setup. Some machines do this very gracefully, others do not. I can tell you I have a Dell and an HP with me now. The Dell boots up, displays its logo in Full HD, then proceeds to Windows. The HP bounces between several different resolutions before making the hand off to Windows, where it resizes one last time. Very poorly done, and this is with the exact same Windows system image.

It sounds like you have been purchasing lower end PCs to me. I don't expect much out of them, which is why I build my own desktops. For Laptops I read reviews, but I don't use them for anything too complicated. Windows 8.1, with a VM for XP and a USB to Serial adapter for old hardware interface.

IRQL was generated by my rig after sleep mode so I began suspecting RAM with everything that's happened, but windows memory diagnostic and memtest has passed it every time. I don't want to buy a new set of 16GB just to have it not work

Yes you do pay a premium, but I had a student discount with mine and 3 years free applecare so I went for it, otherwise I don't think I'd have done it.

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