AMD A10 7850K Vs. FX - 8350

CoolaxGaming · Nov 1, 2014

Hello, before we begin, here are my computer specs.

Amd fx 8350 8 cores
Sabertooth 990FX R 2.0
Corsair 16 Gb ram
Corsair h 100i
Radeon HD 7850
Radeon HD 7850
Corsair 1200 watt PSU
Cooler master haf xm mid tower

So, I recently heard about AMD's new APU's. Well, the latest chipset for fx is 5 years old and lacks a lot of things. A10- 7850K and the crossblade ranger are the parts I am going after.
So with my extreme cooler, and over clocking skills, can I get it to run as fast as my fx 8350. Or is it impossible and will cause a bottleneck?

delaro · Nov 1, 2014

FX 8350 is barely 2 years old and is far better at gaming than Any APU. As far as the supporting chip sets as long as your supporting PCI-e 3 your good. If you stay with AMD, You are better off with the Fx 8350 and a single GPU vs a SLI on low to medium cards. Overclock your FX 8350 and it will handle just about anything.

If you want new features or better CPU gaming performance move to Intel as the I3's and I5's are nearly always faster in games over any AMD cpu and you have new options for supporting chips with H97,Z97,Z99.

runswindows95 · Nov 1, 2014

Honestly, CPU wise, it's a downgrade. The FX series are faster than the APU's. IF anything, the better upgrade would be a Z97 Intel board with an i5-4690K CPU if you're main purpose is gaming.

cemerian · Nov 1, 2014

no chance in world of getting it even close, first of its has only 4 modules, so you are already cutting multithreaded performance in half there(keep in mind multithread performance is the only place fx series actually are good, while in single thread performance even though its steamroller, it can no longer clock as high as the bulldozer in fx 8350(most will do 5ghz), in then end you will only loose performance to get integrated graphics on the apu, the fx 83xx(the fx 9xxx is just factory overclocked fx 8350's and in many cases wont clock as high as the 8350's do) is still the best option from amd if you are interested in more or less good performance after overclocking, that would just be a downgrade in your situation

CoolaxGaming · Nov 1, 2014

delaro :

Anytime soon the APU will beat the fx

delaro · Nov 1, 2014

When they stop making FX chips. Give APU's 2 years and they will pass up a FX 8350.

Rafael Luik · Nov 1, 2014

runswindows95 :

Not regarding single-thread performance, the best FM2+ processors can beat and go head to head with them look at the Dolphin benchmarks for example. So it depends on what architecture the games/apps prefer.

To use a dedicated GPU the A10-7850K makes no sense though, look for the Athlon X4 860K they've cut the iGPU to offer a far better price.

CoolaxGaming · Nov 1, 2014

So APU no no for now?
What about if I over clock it like crazy?
It is 28 nm so it should be cooler with my h100i

Zerk2012 · Nov 1, 2014

Overclock your 8350 don't make a big mistake.
If your going to buy a new motherboard and processor get a Intel it will give better performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1200?vs=697

CoolaxGaming · Nov 1, 2014

Zerk2012 :

So wait for Excavator

bmacsys · Nov 1, 2014

I have a Crossblade Ranger and a A10-7850K clocked at 4.5 GHz with the igpu also overclocked. I also have an 8320 clocked to 4.6 GHz on a Sabertooth 990FX with a discrete card. For everyday use I take the APU rig hands down. Less heat. Less fan noise. For rendering, and gaming it is the 990 rig no question.

Zerk2012 · Nov 1, 2014

CoolaxGaming :

No buy Intel!

slyu9213 · Nov 1, 2014

I don't think AMD has anything to offer as far as CPU upgrades for your 8350. No matter how OCed I don't think a 7850K will be able to match an 8350, especially because you could just OC the 8350 then. If gaming is your goal, stick with the 8350. I don't think Excavator will be enough to match an 8350's performance unless they get it to catch up to an i5 and have a high OC headroom.

CoolaxGaming · Nov 1, 2014

Zerk2012 :

CoolaxGaming :

No buy Intel!

No offense but Intel sucks.
Period

delaro · Nov 1, 2014

Rafael Luik :

Athlon X4 860K's have issues, the 750K is just a better chip with more Overclock potential.

slyu9213 :

I believe Excavator APU's will equal or surpass FX- 8350's, in gaming terms the A10-7850K is a little behind it now. If the APU's receive the projected 20% performance increase then that would put them on part with the FX chip.

anbello262 · Nov 1, 2014

Actually, intel is proving to be quite better than AMD for gaming in the med-high end.

delaro · Nov 1, 2014

FX- 8350 is about the best you get out of AMD, sadly the I3-4130 and Pentium G3258 overclocked equal or surpass the FX chip in most game titles at any resolution. I've always been a AMD fan but proven performance is proven performance.

Maxwell4ME · Nov 1, 2014

If you can afford the i5-4690K http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KPRWB9G it would be a huge improvement for gaming over the 8350. The 8350 would only be a better option if you're doing video editing/rendering.

Rafael Luik · Nov 2, 2014

delaro :

Hm I don't think so, the 750K is two generations behind (or more if you count the low power ones), it's Trinity and since then there was Richland now we are in Kaveri. 750K is kinda a low-end in FM2.

The 860K is Kaveri, it's basically the A10-7850K without the iGPU and cheaper (it's sightly sigthly better). The best performance you can get before Excavator comes out... What issues are you talking about?
Investing in OC makes no sense for me, I'd rather get an i3 than get an Athlon or Pentium + aftermarket cooler for OC.

mdocod · Nov 2, 2014

An 860K at a relatively easy to achieve ~4.4-4.6ghz overclock performs in games about on par with an i5-3330. Coincidentally, this also means that it performs better in most games than a stock clocked FX-8350.

cemerian · Nov 2, 2014

mdocod :

check out Austins review on youtube, he did just that compared the 860k @4.4ghz to a pentium g3258@ 4.7 and the pentium beat the athlon in everything, the extra cores don't change a thing when they are to weak, also richland had better oc potential than the new kaveri parts

Myth_N_Legend · Jun 23, 2015

Keep in mind AMD has stated that the new APU's are for a target audience, you can play games like League of legend's etc with out a discrete GPU. If you are trying to play games like Battlefield 4 then yeah it will do poorly.

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