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alright, I purchased a used MSI GD 65 Z87 gaming motherboard. From the get-go I was having issues and determined from this forum that the processor that was on it was incorrect and not compatible.

I replaced the processor with an I7 4770K, from there the computer had no problems loading installing windows etc. But sometimes I would get a blue screen and it shut down.

I removed my GPU, 290 X to order a new card because I kept getting the black screen in Battlefield 4. From what I read in everything I have tried this black screen in the game could only be fixed by going to GTX.

So anyway back to the problem, I enabled the integrated graphics card on the motherboard to use in the meantime, every time I would boot the computer and I start to use it it would freeze go to the blue screen and shutdown.

I read that these motherboards have a problem with the gaming ethernet, killer lan. I read into it & did the fix that is mentioned online for this problem but it' still continued to freeze and shut down moment after windows loads.


So I know I have multiple problems going on, the GPU problem will be fixed once I get my GTX 970. This issue with the computer instantly freezing shutting down did not happen near as much as when the GPU was on the board, now that I went to the integrated graphics card it shuts down every single time. Could it be the motherboard itself or something else causing the problem?

I did a memory test, my processor is brand-new, I did a clean wipe on my SSD and install.

My components:
I7 4770K
MSI GD 65 Z87 (with most recent updated BIOS)
16 GB G.skill ram
850w ocz platinum plus PSU


sorry for the long story, and if it is confusing I will fix after. Currently driving to work and using Siri depending on her.

Thank you in advance.

 
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Hey you are onto something there man! Now you need to see how long you can keep the system stable with this Crucial SSD.

Some things to consider:

1. Prior to switching out your SSD from the Samsung to the Crucial...have you unplugged and re-seated the SSD power or data cables as part of your testing? (if not...could have been a loose or not totally seated cable)

2. When you switched out your SSD did you route the sata cable a different way or plug it into a different port? (if there were changes in how you routed it i.e. {not behind the MoBo, plugged into sata 01 instead of sata 02} any of that jazz...can make a difference.

3. Did you use a different sata or power cable when you put in the Crucial SSD?

I have never encountered an...
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Ok you know you got to start with the basics.

1. check that there are no metal stand-offs behind the board where they are not supposed to be. (this can cause electrical shorts)

2. make sure you did not route cables behind the MoBo where you maybe should have not...(this can cause shorts as well)

3. re-check all your cables for tightness.

4. make sure you installed all the latest drivers for your board

5. try testing your system with some less demanding game. (use one stick of ram at a time and without the graphics card).

6. if none of the DIMM's cause a problem by themselves, check by adding one more stick each time because one of the DIMM slots could be bad.

7. lastly re-install the graphics card and make sure you put in the recommended slot

other thought: I don't know if you damaged the board when you had that other CPU installed?
 
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I will double check all of this when I get home but a few things I want to add.

I had a amd gaming rig which this r9 290x was in and it did the whole (shut down during Bf4 but I could stress test it all day long with no issues at all)

I sold my amd build and went with this Intel build. The conputer seemed to work fine with the 290 installed on it with a couple shut downs here and there (which is when I read into this "killer lan blue screen" problem.

I removed my GPU and turned on the ING to use until my new card came, but when I turned on the ING the blue screen happens like 2 seconds in Windows up till 2/10 minutes in Windows.

I can just leave the computer running and not actually touching it or doing anything and it will still blue screen shut down.

GPU 290 aside I think there's a problem with the mobo or some other component.

Also I did update my bios to the most recent aswell.
 
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So when I got home I checked all my cables and everything was tight, I started to test the dimms.

I thought that dimm slot 1 was acting up when I place ram in it and booted the computer.

I tried to do a windows memory diagnostics test on 1&3 but it will not complete, it gets to 99% and than stays at that for 10minutes or so before the screen goes black and absolutely nothing happens. I have to manually turn the computer off, and when. windows boots it does not bring up the results.

I placed the ram in dimm slots 2&4 and tried to do a memory test, the whole time the screen just kept blinking on and off (black screen than back to memory test screen) than reach 99% and stays there. Does not restart the computer like its suppose too.. What the heck?
 
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Did you test DIMM slot 1 all by itself yet? That will determine a lot. I'm already leaning towards a bad MoBo.
 
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I did try Slot one all by itself, the computer will boot up and it will freeze, get ablue screen or just shut down. I tried slot 3 by itself to see if it would do the same thing but I couldn't get it to do it, I thought they are tied together, if one has the problem should not the other?
 
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Have to have a DIMM in slot 1 at least. That's the way MoBo's work. If you have 4 sticks of ram and none of them work in slot 1, but they are the proper ram for your machine and did work at one time, then I'm calling bad board. It's unlikely that all of your ram is bad.

I am still thinking that when you put the wrong CPU in the board it may have done something to it. Perhaps the board was bad all along and that's why the person sold it used.
 
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So I sat down tonight to do more testing on the motherboard just to try and make myself 100% satisified. I tested my ram over and over, multiple different ways, one stick in, two in, swapped them, different slots etc and iI kept coming up with problems over and over.

So trying to think outside of the box I decided to remove my Samsung 840 Evo SSD and I threw in my Crucial M4 which has a fresh copy of windows on it. I booted the computer and it started up no problem, I switched ram around and it continues to boot up still no problem.

I am currently using the pc right now to type this.

Is it possible to have a corrupt SSD that will sometimes allow you to boot but then maybe slowly get worse?
 
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Hey you are onto something there man! Now you need to see how long you can keep the system stable with this Crucial SSD.

Some things to consider:

1. Prior to switching out your SSD from the Samsung to the Crucial...have you unplugged and re-seated the SSD power or data cables as part of your testing? (if not...could have been a loose or not totally seated cable)

2. When you switched out your SSD did you route the sata cable a different way or plug it into a different port? (if there were changes in how you routed it i.e. {not behind the MoBo, plugged into sata 01 instead of sata 02} any of that jazz...can make a difference.

3. Did you use a different sata or power cable when you put in the Crucial SSD?

I have never encountered an intermittent failure with a SSD before. So I'm not 100% convinced it was a bad SSD. I don't have enough experience with them to judge. But a bad cable, loose cable or bad sata port on the MoBo are more believable. You may want to experiment to see if you can duplicate the problem to rule out anything else, or you may just want to wipe the sweat off your brow and call it good.

Edited for grammar.
 
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I believe you were correct. I could not just call it good and leave the M4 in and not use the 840 Evo.. The evo is a much better ssd and would rather that be my main ssd.

Anyways I removed the 840 from the sata port and plugged it into the top ssd docking station on my thermaltake chaser mk-1 and booted the computer up, I had no issues at all and I could complete the windows memory diagnostic tests. I also ran a memtest86 for roughly 9 hours or so which completed with no errors.

I than removed the 840 ssd from the docking station and used a brand new sata cable and plugged it back in, I have had no issues at all right now with the computer. I am confident it was the cable, either it was pinched or just damaged inside. None the less I threw it out and got a new one.

Thank you very much sweesy!!
 
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