i5 3570k overclocking performence

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Hello guys I would like your opinion about something.
I don't need to now how to overclock a cpu, but there is a lot on the internet at different sites about when the overclock has not much performance gain any more.
So I would like your opinion over here what is a good overclock for daily use.
I have a i5 3570k and I play games, like bf3/bf4, crisis, cod.
I do a little bit of rendering using cinema 4d but not that much, and I use WinRAR and multi par a lot to rar and par.
So what would by a good overclock for those programs.
YES I now, take a I7 but I don't have 1, so I have to do it wit this.
 
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zink1701

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It all depends on what you do with your machine whether or no you will see any improvement. I have an i5 OC to 4.5GHz (everyday use), when browsing web and other low demand tasks there is no difference between my PC and my partners i3 3.1GHz. When gaming and editing there is a noticiable improvement from my Stock i5 and overclocked. Its not just about the CPU though, other factors come into play whether or not overclocking will help. Amount and speed of RAM, GPU ect. As for whats a good overclock its a case of every little helps. IMO anything above 500MHz from stock otherwise you will only see very little improvement. Everones oppinion will be different on whats good and whats not.
 
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4Ryan6

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The CPUs performance gain is only limited by how hot you allow the CPU to run, if the CPU is running too hot it is internally throttling to control the heat, simple as that.

IF, You can keep the CPU below the temperature throttling, it's performance increases with the clock increases, but if you cannot keep it below the throttling point, the CPUs performance drops.

So the real question is what will your cooling solution allow you to do?

If you are curious you can find details on your CPUs thermal design here.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/3rd-gen-core-lga1155-socket-guide.html

6.2.2 Adaptive Thermal Monitor

The purpose of the Adaptive Thermal Monitor is to reduce processor core power
consumption and temperature until it operates at or below its maximum operating
temperature. Processor core power reduction is achieved by:
• Adjusting the operating frequency (using the core ratio multiplier) and input
voltage (using the SVID bus).
• Modulating (starting and stopping) the internal processor core clocks (duty cycle).
The Adaptive Thermal Monitor can be activated when any package temperature,
monitored by a digital thermal sensor (DTS), meets or exceeds the TCC activation
temperature and asserts PROCHOT#. The assertion of PROCHOT# activates the
thermal control circuit (TCC), and causes both the processor core and graphics core to
reduce frequency and voltage adaptively. The TCC will remain active as long as any
package temperature exceeds its specified limit. Therefore, the Adaptive Thermal
Monitor will continue to reduce the package frequency and voltage until the TCC is de-
activated.
The temperature at which the Adaptive Thermal Monitor activates the thermal control
circuit is factory calibrated and is not user configurable. The default value is software
visible in the TEMPERATURE_TARGET (0x1A2) MSR, bits 23:16. The Adaptive Thermal
Monitor does not require any additional hardware, software drivers, or interrupt
handling routines. Note that the Adaptive Thermal Monitor is not intended as a
mechanism to maintain processor TDP. The system design should provide a thermal
solution that can maintain TDP within its intended usage range.
Note: Adaptive Thermal Monitor protection is always enabled
Click to expand...

The CPU is designed to run in an ambient air environment and all it's built in features is so it can survive past the 3 year warranty covering it, however overclocking pushes it outside it's specification zone into temperatures it's protective features may be activated before they need to be at the speed the CPU is approaching it's heat protection.

The overclock combined with added voltage to stabilize the overclock produces additional heat that accelerates the activation of the CPUs thermal protection.

 
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yes I now that it has to do with the rest also, but you can see the rest of my system in the specs.
And just because every body has a different opinion I would like to see what the opinion is from the people on toms hardware.
 
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my cooling will let me go to 4.7ghz higher then that it goes over the 80 degrees Celsius in stress test, and yes I now its no problem to hit 85 degrees or more but I do not whant that so.
But the difference between 4.6ghz and 4.7ghz is not much more performance gain, only more vcore and more heat.
for 4.6ghz I need 1.235v and for 4.7ghz I need 1.285v
 
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If you're CPU can run everything fine at stock settings I would leave it at that. I have my 3570k OC'ed to 4.2ghz but only because I need the extra power in bf4 reaching 120fps. If you play at 60fps then stock should do fine.

Your system specs say you have it at 4.7ghz which is great but if its not needed why pump that extra voltage into it. See what percentage of your CPU is being used in games at stock. If it reaches 100%(which I highly doubt) go ahead and overclock it until that drops.
 
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4Ryan6

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I edited my post above as I originally copied the Intel information I had posted from another thread, (the read is almost identical), but it was covering the 2nd generation of Intels "Adaptive Thermal Monitor" and I updated the above information to the 3rd generation, check it out.
 
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@ mastergup

In the Intel overclocking club thread I purposely disabled HT on my 3770K which comparatively without HT is equal to your 3570K, I ran Intel Burn Test and posted a screen shot for you actually, so you could see the increased clock I was running was not loosing performance as is noted in the Speed (GFlops).

If performance was dropping off simply from the overclock itself my performance would have been worse than yours from the point of view of the opening post in this thread, but the temperature the CPU is allowed to run has everything to do with performance drop off.

Either you missed or ignored my point in the Intel Overclocking Club thread, so here's the screen shot once again, compare the clock speed with the HT disabled only running the 4 cores vs the temperature against yours.



Compare your screen shot at your 4.7ghz overclock and if a higher clock itself is the reason the performance drops why is my Speed (GFlops) higher, and it took less time to complete IBT.

Your CPU temperature is what controls your CPUs performance fall off, and that is best gauged by programs like this and running benchmarks to see what temperature your performance begins to fall off.

All hardware is different so there are no actual numbers to give you, you have to test it yourself!

You simply need to discover for yourself the the highest overclock your cooling solution can support without the loss of CPU performance, or else for you (CPU Performance Wise!), it is like driving your car with the emergency brake on!
 
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I now that, but it is not only to run games, so I want a good balanced overclock for the things I do with my computer.
 
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