A10-6800k and Geforce GTX 780 3gb.

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I currently have a setup with an apu as stated in the title. I am using the integrated graphics. I would now like to improve my system for obvious reasons. I would like to get a gtx 780 as I think it will last a while and I will not lack fps in any game. The only problem I have is this : Will the CPU in the apu be strong enough to handle such a strong GPU. Eventually I will upgrade my motherboard and CPU to an i7 setup but for now I am short of cash.

Also if you could tell me which gtx 780 you would recommend

Gtx 780 No.1 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00GJYOL0G?cache=d6d4e4fa57d39390cc77092a6f0dbaaa&pi=SY200_QL40&qid=1415118177&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1

Gtx 780 No.2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00D388T3Q?cache=d6d4e4fa57d39390cc77092a6f0dbaaa&pi=SY200_QL40&qid=1415118177&sr=8-2#ref=mp_s_a_1_2
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Gtx 780 No.3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00DWV3NM6?cache=d6d4e4fa57d39390cc77092a6f0dbaaa&pi=SY200_QL40&qid=1415118177&sr=8-3#ref=mp_s_a_1_3

I will have to upgrade my power supply also but I think if I get a nice corsair 700 w PSU I would be fine. Right?

For now I would also be using the GPU in a PCI 2.0 x 16 slot...I have heard that this won't impact the GPUs performance. Is this true?

Thanks in advance for your help
 
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The GTX 970 is much more...
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The cores in the A10 are weaker than Intel cores, individually and many games will not be using most of them.

The GTX780 is a good and powerful card and is well priced at the moment. How does the price compare with the newer, less power hungry, GTX970 for you?

If you choose a good power supply, you will not need as much as 700W. This : http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html is the information we use to help choose power supplies. Buy a unit from tier 1 or 2 for this build.
 
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The A10 will not keep up with a GTX 780 or 970. Since you want to upgrade later, getting either is fine for now. Your PSU will handle either. The R9 290 is another consideration for you. Not as fast as a GTX 970, but faster than a 780, and are priced less than either.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Vapor-X Video Card ($286.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $286.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-04 12:29 EST-0500

 
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I don't know if this would work for your situation or not, but coming from an integrated GPU, anything is going to be faster. So, as opposed to spending $275 - $300+ for a GPU now (that you will not fully utilize), consider going with something like a 270X now. Save the $ difference towards your new MB/CPU. Then when you have the money to upgrade your MB/CPU, do it and then evaluate at that time whether you still need more GPU horsepower.
 
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Not a bad idea really. For the cost of a GTX 780, you could get a decent replacement setup.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $372.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-04 14:08 EST-0500


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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($372.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $372.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-04 14:08 EST-0500
 
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Thank you guys for all of your suggestions... I have the money at the moment for the gtx780 but not for the cpu/mb but what I don't want to do have to upgrade twice ( buying a 270x then but a gtx 780 down the line) . I would rather do it right once and for all...therefore I am going to gather more cash... Buy an Intel i7 4790k and a good motherboard along with the gtx 780 and be finished for two years. What do you think? Is that the way to go? Buy the CPU mb and gpu all at once? And how long will the gtx 780 last before having to rebuild or upgrade again? Thanks for the help!
 
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Since money is tight, I would suggest trying to maximize your performance/$ as opposed to getting the best performance. That may mean upgrading twice. Getting something like the R9 280 (almost identical to my 7950) will allow you max out most games today @ 1080P. A GTX 780 will do the same thing, but costs double the price.

But, I don't want to ignore your wishes. If you are dead set about buying top of the line now and not touching it again, then you've kind of already made up your mind. There's nothing wrong with that approach, it's just a lot more money up front.

It's hard to say how long these cards will give playable frame rates, but I would expect even the R9 280 to last at least two years, though with lower settings near the end. The GTX 780 may give you another year or two after that.

One other thing to consider, the GTX 780 is already a year and a half old. At this point, you probably want to go with the GTX 970 unless you can find a great deal on the 780.
 
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Okay I see your point but would I have to get a better CPU if I wanted to get the r9 280. Also if I was to get a gtx 780 or gtx 970, which one would you reccomend and why? I would clearly have to upgrade my CPU and mb in this case though. Because I don't expect an i7 and the gtx 780 or 970 to go out of "fashion" any time soon, I would like to spend a bigger amount of money now rather than later and have it finished for 2 + years. But my mind is not set and I really value your opinion. Because I don't have 700$ for the CPU GPU and mb, if a r9 280 would be fine with my CPU (apu) then I might use that as a temporary upgrade till I get more money to do the big upgrade I want to do! Thanks for your help
 
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Do not buy a GTX 780. Either get an R9 290, or go with 4690k and a GTX 970.
 
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The GTX 970 is much more efficient, using about 40% less power, while providing performance that is comparable to the GTX 780. At this time, the R9 290 is a hard sell for me. It is $50-$60 cheaper, but it is ~10% slower and uses twice as much power.

For your situation, thinking back over this thread, it may be a good option to go with the GTX 970 now and then look at a new MB/CPU when you can afford it. Since the 970 is very efficient, you may not need a new power supply, as long as you have a decent 500-550W one now.

For the future MB/CPU when you can afford it:
If there is a possibility that you would like to overclock, I would suggest a Z97 MB, i5-4690K, and Cooler Master 212 EVO cooler.
If you know you'll never overclock, you can save money by going with an H97 MB, i5-4690, and the stock cooler.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. I hope I didn't completely confuse you!
 
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Thanks you mhirons, I am going to take your information onboard. Just one last question. If I do get the gtx970 will it work fine with my a10-6800k for a period of time till I can upgrade my CPU + MB? Thank you all for the help!
 
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Yeah, that was poorly worded on my part, when I mentioned the 290 being slower, I was comparing that to the 970.

Being that the 290 is older, slower, and less efficient, it's only going to go down in price to try to compete. It's still not a bad card, so if it could be had for a steal ($250??), I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. The 970 is in a great position with very high demand, so I don't see that dropping in price anytime soon.
 
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Oh, yeah, it'll work no problem. It may be slightly bottlenecked by your current CPU, but I wouldn't worry about it too much since the plan is to upgrade your CPU at some point in the future.
 
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Thank you all very much for the information. I still have to come to a conclusion but all my questions have been answered so I should make the informed choice
 
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