Would you purchase an 8-Core AMD Steamroller/Excavator CPU if it were available today?

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Just curious as to just who, out there, would actually purchase an AMD CPU if they were to create an 8-core (quad module) FX series based on the Steamroller or Excavator architectures.

I'm still running a Phenom II 955BE@4.0, and am in the market to upgrade and most likely going with a 4790K, but, honestly, if there were an updated FX, I would probably give it a go. Just seeing if anyone else would.
 
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You could buy a AMD FX-9590 Eight-Core Processor 4.7GHz Socket AM3+. Of course you need the right motherboard, Cooler and power supply. It is just easier to go the a i5-4690K, or if you want the i7-4970K.

I would love to see AMD come out with something to compete with Intel on performance side with out needing liquid nitrogen to cool it or extra expensive components to run it. That is what AMD used to be about. Now you have the FM, FM2, FM2+, AM3+. It just sucks no good upgrade path.

Where as with Intel I can buy and entry level H81 motherboard and a Celeron then upgrade it to a Pentium then to an i3 to and i5 and finally to and i7 all on the same motherboard. You can't get that with AMD, it's like in the last 10 years they switched places.
 
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I completely understand that the FX8xxx and 9xxx CPU's are available, but they are all based on Piledriver. I'm talking about if there were FX CPU's based on Steamroller or Excavator architectures.
 
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I'm thinking if it came out on FM2+, was quad module, and could reach clock ranges from 4-5GHz, then I'd almost absolutely buy an FX rather than getting say, a i5-4670K (as it would be priced against) and save money from having to spend 50% more just for Hyperthreading on a i7-4790K or similar. With DDR4, I think that an FX chip of that nature would be plenty for just about anything one could throw at it. Also if the process was that advanced FDSOI I have read about.
 
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AMD's FX chipset is its biggest stumbling block when compared to the much newer Intel Z77, Z87, Z97 chipsets. I was a dedicated AMD user for many years but after switching to Intel AMD would have to release something astounding to consider going back. Micro Center currently has the 4790K bundled with the ASRock Z97 Extreme4 for $349 as an in store deal only. Nothing AMD offers can touch that combination at any price today. Far better CPU, vastly better motherboard at an unbeatable price.
 
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YES, YES YES!!! I actually have been sitting on the components for a build with an 8-core Steamroller for almost 2 years, although I now know it will never happen. I have an XFX R7870 DD Black Edition, 32 GB GSkill 1866 RAM w/Memory Coolers, a ThermalTake 1 KW power supply, an OEM copy of Windows 7 Pro, and various other bits & parts; all in anticipation of an 8-core Steamroller that NEVER CAME!! As Dr. Smith from "Lost In Space" would have said, "Oh, the pain, the PAIN !!!"

I have almost resigned myself to getting an FX-8320 and an ASUS FX-990 Sabretooth, and completing the build, but haven't gone through with it, for some reason. I've also considered an Intel i5 build, but can't bring myself to do it. So, I just sit, praying for AMD to deliver me from my pre-build Hell.
 
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Anybody that thinks a 6-core Thuban in an AMD platform will perform as well as a 6-core E series LGA2011 Intel CPU is delirious. I have a 1090T and 1100T in my collection of CPU's. Neither one comes close to my 6-core 3930K in anything. I managed a CPU score of 17,200 at Passmark nearly two years ago with the 3930K at 5.02GHZ and 64GB of RAM installed. That's nearly 3 times what a Thuban will do. The links to CPU-Z verifications are all to rigs I own and built. All are over 5GHZ except the 3770K that fell just a tick short but 4.9+GHZ from an Ivy Bridge is still very good.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2731023
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2616338
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2558167
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2541168
 
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I personally prefer Intel processors. It may be a myth but I think Intel is more accurate when it comes to processing speeds, not a fan of over clocking just in case I fry the chip and have to lie to get my money back. I use to update my PC every year. It just got way too expensive. I've dropped way over $1000 in my baby. As a rule I steer clear of new processors when they first come out, to make sure they get the bugs out first. But the thought of having a processor that fast does intrigue my interest.
 
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If AMD made an eight-thread processor with better single-core performance and a TDP in double rather than triple figures, then I'd consider buying it. The sad truth is that AMD can't compete against Intel at the top-end unless they up their game, and we, as consumers are the ones who lose out.
 
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Yeah I guess I'd look into it, but for now, consider this. Besides looking at just what a CPU can do, how about the rest of the configuration? What else are you doing to boost performance? Is your Motherboard Duel channel memory compliant, & is it running in duel channel mode? Are you running multi GPU's in SLI or Cross fire Mode? Are you running multi Raptor Hard drives in Raid 0? Is your monitor 2M/s compliant? All these performance boost options should be implemented into you build. Then you can say you've got a Gaming Configuration. I'm currently running an FX 8350 with all these tweaks implemented & I'm happy with what I got & how it performs.
 
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The module thing never real performed as promised it might be time to scratch that and go back to real cores. I remember Windows 8 was supposed to unlock the true potential of the FXs modules well if it did it's pretty sad. Its been years since Intel came out with the Sandy Bridge and AMD has yet to answer. The APU isn't a answer it was a surrender.

I love reading from these guy saying their FX-8350s run just as fast as a stock i5 all they have to do is over clock it so high they have to use liquid nitrogen to keep the computer from catching on fire.
 
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^^ This, although all that i ask is a real quadcore with a decent IPC and good overclocking potential (almost nothing lol).
 
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Just buy an i5-4690k and a motherboard and build your system. Come out of the coma your in and rejoin the living before all the parts you bought 2 years ago are obsolete and you never get to use them. Really a brand new XFX R7870 DD still in the box... JSMH.
 
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When you can get almost similar performance in modern games with an FX-8350 as with the i5 4690k for $75 less, the FX series doesn't look that bad. It doesn't account for power consumption though. But people feel that less, compared to spending $75 more in one go.

And before you say there are barely any games that use so many cores, the consoles games coming out are showing that 8 cores are useful. All Ubisoft games are using it now (Watch_Dogs, Assassin's Creed Unity). Of course there's the likes of Battlefield 4, Hitman Absolution, Crysis 3, Tomb Raider, Alien Isolation and so on. Not saying it's better to go for the FX. But it's not as bad as people say it is. Look at this:

http://www.techspot.com/review/875-intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e/page7.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/903-alien-isolation-benchmarks/page5.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmarks/page5.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page5.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/706-splinter-cell-blacklist-benchmarks/page5.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/670-metro-last-light-performance/page6.html


I don't think 5 frames is worth $75. Yes there are a few games where the benefits of the i5/i7 is bigger, but they still perform well enough with an FX.
 
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