Good Gaming CPUs that work with MSI-A78M-E35 mobo

slickman130 · Nov 9, 2014

Hi, I need good gaming CPUs that work with the MSI-A78M-E35 Motherboard, i am looking to play arma 3 25 FPS in town with a AMD X4 760K Athlon.

Keep in mind i currently have a Radeon 4670 GPU (which sucks i know i have a R7 260x which is broken)

Also please note that if it could be OC accesible that would also be good also please note that the MSI-A78M-E35 is a FM2 Mobo (Im not sure that is what i heard though idk what FM even means

devanshu2707 · Nov 9, 2014

hope it helps!!
AMD A10 7850K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113359

slickman130 · Nov 9, 2014

Thanks but isnt that a APU? those arent so good... also i dont think APUs work iwth the MSI-A78M-E35 Mobo

iballew · Nov 10, 2014

Yes, your motherboard supports apus however, I would stay away from them. The athlon 760k is the best cpu that your motherboard currently supports. It is basically the amd a10 6800k apu without the integrated graphics. It should handle arma pretty well. I would try and save up for a better gpu as well. Here is a link to all of the cpus/apus your motherboard supports: http://us.msi.com/support/mb/A78ME35.html#support-cpu
Good luck.

mdocod · Nov 10, 2014

A78 is FM2+. The best CPU for pairing with a discrete GPU for that platform is the 860K. You may have to do a BIOS update with your current CPU before proceeding with the CPU upgrade.

The 860K is ~10-30% faster than the 760K depending on workload.

iballew · Nov 11, 2014

According to multiple websites, the 860k is slightly more power efficient while the 760k has 100 mhz faster clock speed. Otherwise, there is no significant difference. Am I missing something?

mdocod · Nov 11, 2014

iballew :

The 860K is steamroller architecture, the 760K is PileDriver architecture. The 860K has numerous important refinements. Twice as many instruction decoders and the addition of a loop buffer removes the vast majority of the MP scaling penalties of PileDriver, which by itself is a major factor here, as it means that in MP workloads, a 4 core steamroller will be able to achieve the instruction performance near that of a 6 core PileDriver in some cases. Almost all noteworthy instruction penalties and denormal penalties in PileDriver have been reduced or eliminated in Steamroller, as well as better handling of 256bit operations (in some cases up to 8X better than piledriver), up to double the FMA3 instruction throughput, larger L1 caching, improved L2 cache performance (lower latency, better buffers, up to double the write bandwidth)...

Bottom line here is that there's no good reason to buy a 760K at this time. The 860K is already showing 10-30% performance advantages over the 760K in existing software. That doesn't take into account what happens as compilers are modified to take advantage of more of what Steamroller has to offer.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+X4+760K+Quad+Core&id=1997
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+X4+860K+Quad+Core&id=2362

The improved compute efficiency is just icing on the cake IMO.

iballew · Nov 12, 2014

Wow. Ill be using that site for future reference. Is nice to know amd is moving away from piledriver.

slickman130 · Nov 13, 2014

iballew :

thanks dude your the best! also would the 760k Bottleneck a high end GPU like a 780?

slickman130 · Nov 13, 2014

mdocod :

Your rock to dude

slickman130 · Nov 13, 2014

mdocod :

Your rock to dude

slickman130 · Nov 13, 2014

mdocod :

Your rock to dude

iballew · Nov 15, 2014

I doubt it will bottleneck a gtx 780 but obviously you would problably get better fps with a high end i7. As we previously discussed, the x4 860k is 10-30% more powerful than the 760k. That pared to at least a gtx 760 should destroy everything you throw at it. I would try to get a gtx 970 or gtx 980 if I were you. They are based on nvidias new maxwell architecture and seem to be priced very well. Socket Fm2 (what your motherboard has) is amds newest socket and I would imagine they are going to come out with more powerful CPUs for it in the future. If the 860k falls behind in the next few years, you should be able to upgrade to something better. Good luck.

mdocod · Nov 15, 2014

I don't expect FM2+ to go very far. They are already at a dead end on that platform due to memory bandwidth restrictions for the APU's the system is designed for.

slickman130 · Nov 20, 2014

So the 760k wont bottle neck a high end GPU? like 780?

mdocod · Nov 23, 2014

Any CPU can bottleneck any GPU under the right conditions. A <$100 CPU is going to have more severe FPS limitations than a high end CPU in some compute intensive games no matter what GPU it is paired with. If the CPU can only do 30FPS in a congested multi-player battle sequence, then it can only do 30FPS whether paired with a GTX750 or GTX780, doesn't matter. The difference between the GTX750 and GTX780 will manifest as a difference in visual quality more than anything. Performance originates with the CPU, the hard limits of performance are set by the CPU.

Why not the 860K?

DarkTerbear · Dec 13, 2014

If you are looking for an APU (GPU+CPU), then the A10-7850K is your best bet.
If you are looking for only a CPU, then go with the AMD FX-8350, FX-6300, or FX-9370.
Also, FM2 and FM2+ are socket types for motherboards and CPUs. FM2 and FM2+ are also compatible.

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