best MoBo for AMD Phenom II x4 945

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hi there i`m looking to upgrade my MoBo and not quite sure what`s the best buy would be within budget

At the moment i run

Asus NARRA3 (the HP version which is pretty limited) i have just found out that the CPU apparently should not run on it cause of the low "W" input only W95 where as the CPU wants W125 but it went ok for the past 8 months or so

also have:

Memory
2 x Samsung DDR2 PC2-6400 (400MHz) 1G
2 x Geil DDR2 PC2-6400 (400MHz) 2G

Graphics
AMD Radeon HD 6870 (looking to get another one for crossfire maybe)

PSU
XFX Pro850W

Cooler
Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme CPU Cooler Rev1

all in a cooler master cosmos full tower.

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the reason why i`m looking for an upgrade is because i got an SSD and i cant set it up with this mobo because the bios is locked (cant set AHCI mode for it)

+ i do want to keep going up in specs in the future step by step
+ everything that i got on the PC is relatively new compared to the mobo lol (it`s about 6.5 years old) and the rest of the stuff i got in the past year

~ i only play World of Tanks and it`s going ok-ish 20~35 fps but i cant really do much on the 2nd display as it drops the fps a lil bit (running 27 inch monitor on HDMI and 19 inch monitor on DVI)
 
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it's about time to ditch that ddr2 ram, it's almost 2015 and we're up to ddr4 now. i would suggest getting some cheap ddr3. that will require upgrading the motherboard as well... because you cannot put ddr2 ram in a ddr3 slot. however, your amd phenom 945 has a memory controller that can support either ddr2 or ddr3, just depends on the motherboard it is in.

so motherboard i would suggest 970 chipset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873
here is a good review on that mobo http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/ASUS-M5A97-R20-Motherboard/1772
it has a 4+2 vrm setup so you will have no problem overclocking and overvolting that phenom cpu to extract every last bit of performance from that old betty (provided you...
why do you need to replace the motherboard? if the cpu is working dont waste your money on a new board, upgrade later when you want to do the cpu and everything. it will only draw 125w if your benching it loading up all cores anyway, for gaming and such it wont draw as much power. If you do really want to follow through with it then get something that will support an fx 8350 for future upgrade potential. As for the 6870 crossfire, dont waste your time, i had 6850 crossfire and it was problematic. Sure you get higher average fps, but your low fps often drops lower than a single card, and the stuttering is an issue, and the 1gb vram on them is a limitation, and then there are plenty of games that dont work well or at all with crossfire. Better off selling the 6870 on ebay and investing in a new card like a r9 280 or gtx 760.
 

Romeo Moldovan

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thank you iam2thecrowe for your reply

the reason why i`m looking for an upgrade is because i got an SSD and i cant set it up with this mobo because the bios is locked (cant set AHCI mode for it)

+ i do want to keep going up in specs in the future step by step
+ everything that i got on the PC is relatively new compared to the mobo lol (it`s about 6.5 years old) and the rest of the stuff i got in the past year

~ i only play World of Tanks and it`s going ok-ish 20~35 fps but i cant really do much on the 2nd display as it drops the fps a lil bit (running 27 inch monitor on HDMI and 19 inch monitor on DVI)
 


i agree. particularly for something like world of tanks where the higher per core performance of intel will help, an intel i3 is ideal really.
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If it were me, i'd send the ssd back, and focus on getting an intel cpu + motherboard, then look at your gpu, then lastly at an ssd. I dont really have an issue running a standard hdd, i never feel like i'm waiting for my pc to hurry up when loading.... But then I'm a patient man, I have been through the 80's and remember the days of waiting1/2 hour for a game to load off a tape drive, only to error, and have to start all over.
 

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it's about time to ditch that ddr2 ram, it's almost 2015 and we're up to ddr4 now. i would suggest getting some cheap ddr3. that will require upgrading the motherboard as well... because you cannot put ddr2 ram in a ddr3 slot. however, your amd phenom 945 has a memory controller that can support either ddr2 or ddr3, just depends on the motherboard it is in.

so motherboard i would suggest 970 chipset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873
here is a good review on that mobo http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/ASUS-M5A97-R20-Motherboard/1772
it has a 4+2 vrm setup so you will have no problem overclocking and overvolting that phenom cpu to extract every last bit of performance from that old betty (provided you have adequate cooling heatsink)

you can find ddr3 666.5/1333 mhz ram real cheap, maybe even used on ebay. but if you do get used ram, make sure to run a memtest right after you get it while you can still return it if it's bad. but even then, new 1333 mhz ddr3 ram is cheap.

$45 for 4 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145322

you can start off with 4 GB of ram to get your new system going at first, and then later buy another stick to take advantage of the dual channel memory controller that phenom cpu has to offer

i got lucky not too long ago on craigslist, i bought a 4 GB stick of 1600 mhz ddr3 for $15. used of course, but as soon as i got home with it i ran a memtest and it checked out ok. was quite a steal

good luck with your build, if you only take one thing away from my post here: i highly advise you move away from ddr2 and get ddr3. because like you said that you want to slowly increase the specs, you want to get an am3+ board (so in the future you can get an fx cpu). the phenom cpu you have is an am3 socket cpu, but itll work in an am3+ socket mobo

edit: one more thing, that asus mobo i linked has an amd 850/950 southbridge chipset, which provides sata 6 Gb/s so you'll be able to take full advantage of the speeds from that ssd. as to the other person suggesting you return the ssd... nonsense. solid state storage is wonderful and i'll only ever use disk storage in a redundant raid array for archive and long term storage. always boot your OS from the fastest storage you have
 
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Romeo Moldovan

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Thank you for your reply. i was actually looking last night at that 970 that you linked ... quite cheap only £53 but also i was checking out the £37 http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138372 but reviews on it are not brilliant ... and also was looking at GA-990FX for £68 but i dont really see any diferences between the 990 and the 970 except the chip.

anyhow thank you very much for your answer i fond it to be the closest to answer all of my questions.
 

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the only need for the 990fx/x chipset is if you wanna run multiple gpus at x16 pcie. the 970 chipset can only do a single gpu at x16 and a second one at x8. other than that the chipsets are the same

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_900_chipset_series#990FX
 

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