Motherboard tier list collaboration: Interested?

UPDATE: The list has been completed. You can view it HERE.


Greetings fellow members!


After a Motherboard tier list based solely on 'features, PCIe power and OCbility' failed against the rightful eyes of senior members, I've decided to develop another, hopefully more accurate, MoBo list.


And guess what, you can collaborate with your valuable inputs even before it is put up! I've this in mind:

Use a suitable service, like Google Drive to make a draft available to all interested members through mail, who can put their input and help in expanding it.

The topic for the list, Motherboards, being a fairly vast area, we can appropriately divide work, but there would be no compulsions to be a part of those groups, you can just provide your feedback about how it's looking and suggestions/ advise.

Everything being debatable, we can be sure of the 'best' ideas and rightful MoBos making it to appropriate tiers.

The new 'ranking' analogy is based off 'value/money' and 'actual usability' concept. Here, the real use, build quality, price (range) and features in accordance to chipsets shall be considered, and MoBos be tiered upon those concepts.

We can then put it here using a shared account, for fair share of work and convineance of editing. More ideas are always welcome.



How can I collaborate?

I shall be making a rough draft soon, if you're interested, PM me. Your Email ID would be needed, but will not be disclosed. Please do not provide your Email ID in the replies.

I'll be free (hopefully) after 20 Nov, but will try to make draft before that that so we can start with our development. So if you're interested or have questions regarding this project, reply here or PM me! Feel free to clear your doubts!

 
Yes, grouping every chipset (though tideous) is the best approach, I second you. And you're right about the tier format, especially in terms of lower end (or budget) boards, we can get some great ones for $50 but some 5 year old junk as well. So it'll be a careful approch, let's hope for the best, I'll join you in the loop when I make the draft :)
 
I certainly do. There are GREAT $50 motherboards and GREAT $300 motherboards but can they both go in tier 1?

If the list is STRICTLY quality based, then yes they can, no problem, but if you want to include features in the ranking, then you need a separate list for every chipset for sure.

Whoever is making the list needs to define a single variable that it will be based on. Example: the PSU tier list is based on quality of the unit, not number of connectors, or color scheme, or sleeved vs. unsleeved, etc.
 
I made the list based 'solely' on features and such, and it failed the practical use test. So this one shall be based on quality, and features shall be secondary. Ofcourse I'll make tiers but they should be based off quality and workability. Like a $50 H81 can be tier one (in H81 tier list, if that's possible) and a Z97-A can be tier 2 in it's list. I'm ready to put all my time on this, to make it sensible and usable, along with the valuable input of all other members.

But I'd like more feedback from other experienced members on this.
 
I still do not see it working with more than one variable at all. You really need ONE defined variable. Make it quality, and make sure you state this.

Also make sure to label the tier lists appropriately. I will be different from the PSU list where a tier 5 unit could fry your computer. Here a tier 5 board simply would not have many features, be more basic, and has higher chance for RMA, but is not dangerous for the computer.
 


Fair enough, but there are low quality AMD 780G and 970 chipset boards that NEED to be avoided for FX CPUs.
 
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I'm not sure how this would work since things like CPU overclockability are more dependent on the CPU lottery than the board. This would be more of a subjective list than say the power supply tier list which is based on electrical performance. Honestly the only way to do this would be based on features.
 


I've put my mind around that, made a whole Tier list based on features, but there are some variables to it. Consider this:
A home theator user might not need a $150 MoBo, and there are many $50 MoBos which do the job just as well, including them in the bottom of the 'feature first' tier list (for obvious reasons) will not be appropriate. There has to be a system of how we go about it, so making a different tiers for say H Mobos, as they all can't SLI and OC, will be appropriate in my opinion. Thoughts?
 
You contradicted yourself.

You said a home theater would not need a high end motherboard. This is because the system will not require many features. This would then put it at the bottom of the feature tier list. Where it BELONGS. Because it has little features. It is not a bad board, it could even be great quality, but it BELONGS at the bottom of the feature tier list, where it could also be in the middle/upper middle of the quality tier list AT THE SAME TIME.

You can't do it by H series boards. All H97 boards would be above H81 boards because they offer more when there are VERY good quality H81 boards. You MUST do it by chipset, if you are counting features at all. That is the ONLY way it will work.
 


I don't see why it would be a problem. The couple of tier lists out there for GPUs and the PSU tier list as well, all have hardware with similar performance, which simply results in similar tier placement. If two different boards both have similar performance, why shouldn't they be on the same tier. Considering purpose of build, as mentioned by other members, probably ought to be a factor since what works well at stock clocks with an adequate PSU and a single GPU may not be a very good choice for somebody determined to get that big overclock or run dual cards.
 
^ I have not read most of the posts everyone made but how will we create a Tier list. Because the motherboard has many factors affecting it.


But remember, nothing is impossible. It takes time to research. I am not sure about the rest of us, but I am in for a great big fun. :D
 
Since the PSU tier list actually has notations indicating "Highly recommended for any situation", "Excellent quality for limited budgets", "Meets ATX specifications/not ideal for overclocking/dual cards etc." this should be applicable with each tier simply being divided by chipset along with notations to the side of each board indicating it's intended platform (ie, small form factor, mini-itx, atx, or media center, desktop) this might be a good consideration to carry over for the very same purpose of clarifying why and for what uses it makes the grade.


This does however seem like a very daunting task considering much of the information will have to be based on testing provided by other parties and we already know that some of those reviews are not entirely accurate due to the reviewers not wanting to knock a particular manufacturers product for fear they will not provide further hardware for review in the future.


Obviously the hardware cannot all be tested for the purpose of the tier list, nor should it, but since not every review has the same conclusion for any particular board, you'll need to devise a way to draw conclusions from multiple reviews or simply rank according to hard facts like, well, features. There it is again.


The type of power phase, mosfets, heat sinks, PCB quality (Thickness, protection, etc.), controller type, memory and cpu support, UEFI BIOS ease of use, number and type of USB headers, SATA headers, PCIe SSD support and a general reliability consensus whether based on an accumulated consumer response or some form of reported RMA numbers may all have to be considered to have any likelihood of being remotely accurate.


Or I may be just completely over-thinking the entire process. I don't think however you can simply go by the basic conclusions of the common review sites as the determining criteria for placement though. Not every board that I've come across with a good review from a basically trusted site has actually been so. Some of them have had issues not addressed in the reviews or issues during the review process that were later cleared up via firmware update. This is a major undertaking I believe.
 
darkbreeze provides some good points for pondering there. But it more or less would be fetures first list divided by chipset, ofcourse keeping quality in mind, take 990FX EXTREME3 for eg, it can SLI but can't take FX 8, as no heatsinks on VRMs, so we can't keep it in top tiers. We can't keep 5 year old AMD junk MoBos which'll burn up any FX even in tier 5, it has to be labelled. Since some MoBos are great for some special purposes, that may be kept in mind.

For Eg, 970 UD3P is not SLI capable, but a superb MoBo for OCing, so it may be given a higher tier, from say tier 3 to 2. Labelling will be important. We need to be careful as some MoBos have some known issues, so they should atleast be mentioned. RMA numbers is a good option for checking reliability, I'm not sure if they're available for every MoBo though.
 
There are some motherboard feature comparison spreadsheets available that may be of service to this project.

Here is one from Asus for Z97 motherboards that is on Excel.

http://www.asus.com/Microsite/mb/9series/


That's just what I was thinking of, except that I created a spreadsheet based on all available listed PCPartpicker models and selected only the relevant categories then sorted them by price. It's a starting point anyhow. I don't how useful it actually is but you're welcome to use it as a starting point of some kind if you want. It's in Excel format.

www.puebloallpro.com/motherboards.zip