Help choosing parts for a custom gaming PC

Finnb

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Hi There,
I've been in the process that I'm sure many have been stuck in. The "I'm building a new PC and have been for the last 2 years". Well here I am again as I've decided that enough is enough and I'm ready to pull the trigger, so without further nonsensical jibber jabber, here goes:

Mobo: Asus Z97-Pro

Gpu: EVGA GTX 980 SC

Cpu: I5 4690k

Ram: Corsair Vengeance 16gb (ddr3)

Psu: Corsair AX 860

Case: NZXT Phantom 410

Ssd: Samsung 840 Pro 500gb

Hdd: WD 2tb Black

Cpu cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo

Monitor: Asus PB 278Q

OS: Windows 8.1 64 bit

They are the specs as they stand toady.
I did have some queries that I would like some help with however.

1) I was considering going for the I7 4790k instead as it seems more and more games for the pc are starting to list quad core< cpus as recommended, (watch dogs and the new AC unity among them), now whether this is due to bad ports (game developers would NEVER ;P) or a greater demand for multi-core cpus, I'm not sure. My only concern was getting the i5, only to have to start to bottleneck performance a year down the line say.

2) WD Black being too loud. Rather self-explanatory, I've heard more than one damning report in relation to the noise that these monsters produce, the drive will mostly be used for mundane storage, with games and the OS going on the ssd. The other option is of course the seagate barracuda, but I've heard less than supportive things about that particular drive as well. From my limited experience, WD have always served me well and the Black's 5 year warranty is also alluring, I just don't want to have a drive so loud it drowns everything out as it would annoy me to no end. So minus that long-winded explanation of my situation, the question is really just how loud are these drives and would I be better served with another one?

3) I live in Australia, and summers can get quite warm, especially in my non-AC room. So I was planning to stuff every available fan into the 410 that I could. I was wondering, is this the most effective/ best thing to do? If so, what fans should I use? Being quite new to the actual construction of PCs I'm still in the dark on matters such as these. My plan was to buy NZXT fans as it was an NZXT case, and just supplement them with the existing fans included with the case. Though I have heard that better fans are either corsair or Noctua if I have the $$$. So Should I replace ALL the fans, including the ones included in the case with "better" 3rd party fans? Or just supplement them with the pre-existing fans in the 410?

4) I had chosen to go with the Asus 1440p monitor rather than the new Asus 4K monitor offering (difference in price is about $125-$150) as I didn't think I'd have the GPU power necessary to run it. Was worried that in a years time I'd be hard pressed to run at 4K at all, hence the 1440p, is this the right logic?

I would be most grateful for any help you could provide on this matter
Finn
 
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A GTX 970 is almost as powerful as a GTX 980, but a lot cheaper. The ASUS STRIX model has 0 db idle fan cooling. And yes, in your case, the i5-4690k will be a wise choice for gaming. A Hyper 212 will be enough, but a liquid cooler is better. Try the built-in case fans first. If too loud, then replace with Noctua case fans. Don't forget to choose a best answer if you see fit to do so. :)
1. The i5-4690k is fine even for today's games, but an i7-4790k reaches very high clock speeds effortlessly by default and will not need to be overclocked. You can choose to get an i7 if doing photoshop, movie editing, etc.

2. You can get two WD Blue 1 GB drives and run them in RAID for extra performance. Or get a Seagate Barracuda 2 GB drive. Seagate's reliability has improved over the years.

3. With the situation of your ambient room temps, go with a closed-loop water cooler or Noctua NH-D15 cooler. You can install several Noctua case fans and keep your PC cool and quiet that way.

4. The 1440p monitor is a fine choice. You also have an option to use DSR to render games at higher resolutions than the monitor's native resolution, which is a form of supersampling AA.
 

Tradesman1

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1. 4690K and 4790K are both 4 core, the 4790K has hyper threading so sort of like having 8 cores and is a good choice, the other thought on that would be go the i5 4690 or 4690K now and a year down the road upgrade to the Broadwell when released.

2. Think you'd be fine with the WD Black, and with additional fans doubt you'd hear it much at all

3. Might pick up an extra fan or two and initially just see how that does, the case is a good one, I worked with one of them, and I'm here in Arizona so we get extremely warm also.

4. 980 should keep you happy for awhile, on the monitor this might help as far as a 4K

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6725/4k-showdown-asus-gtx-980-4gb-in-single-sli-3-way-sli-and-4-way-sli/index.html
 

Finnb

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Thanks for the help guys,
No photo editing or video rendering of any kind, this will just be for gaming and word processing/internet browsing etc..., looks like i5 for that then. I didn't think I'd need a noctua or water cooling as I didn't plan for overlocking (yet) given my inexperinace, don't you feel the 212 will be enough?

I did consider using 2 blues in a raid, but as I'm highly inexperienced with actually physically doing these things, I though I'd steer clear, tradesman, you think the black wont be an issue?

So keep the original case fans then just add a few more? What make should i be looking at, Would NZXT ones be fine (trying to keep it looking "samey", OCD and all ;) or should I go for some "better" makes? If so, what ones, I've heard noctua and corsair do good case fans?

I should hope the 980 keeps me happy!, considering the most powerful computer I've ever owned cant max League of Legends and has a WD green as it's primary drive, this should be quite and upgrade! That link tradesman is exactly my worry about 4k, being that it can barely hold 30 in last gen games, and while I'm sure I'll add a second 980 to boost performance at some point, I'm hoping to hold out on that for at least another year

Thanks again for your quick and highly informative replies :)
Finn
 
A GTX 970 is almost as powerful as a GTX 980, but a lot cheaper. The ASUS STRIX model has 0 db idle fan cooling. And yes, in your case, the i5-4690k will be a wise choice for gaming. A Hyper 212 will be enough, but a liquid cooler is better. Try the built-in case fans first. If too loud, then replace with Noctua case fans. Don't forget to choose a best answer if you see fit to do so. :)
 
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Finnb

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Thanks again guys, I did consider the 970, but as I have the money for a 980, I thought I'd grab that instead :p
Liquid cooling is obviously better, I've always steered clear of it as I've never messed around with overlocking and thus never thought it was required, hence my decision to go with the budget, but seeming well regarded 212 Evo. Combined with the fact that form what I've heard water cooling is tricky? Dont you need to change the water regularly? As I've said, never really given it any serious thought

On an unrelated note, are noctua the best case fans around then?

Ah, always the hardest part of this process, picking the best answer, as it's seemingly always split between 2 people who both give awesome responses :D, need one of you to be an ass, would make this much easier for me ;)

Back to hard drives quickly, from both of your experience(s), is the WD black (the most recent models) an overly loud drive, that is probably my biggest fear to be honest.

Cheers for the help

Finn