Electrical Fire Smell = Bad PCI slot?

LukeLC

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UPDATE: rewrote post for clarity and new details.

Hi all,

Lately I've been having issues with hot-swapping HDMI sources on my PC. I frequently hook it up to a projector for gaming and Hulu, and for ages had no problems. But then all of a sudden I started finding that switching HDMI cables caused the PC to reboot. Strange indeed, but I've had weird issues with GPU drivers before, so I chocked it up to NVIDIA screwing up and waited for the next driver update. Well, that came and went and the problem persisted, and like an idiot I ignored it. Well, last night the problem decided it would be ignored no longer. When I swapped HDMI cables, the video output completely shut off and the PC kept running but a strong electrical burning smell filled the room almost immediately. Well that scared me good, so I force shut down the PC and gave it a break. When I came back later there was no video output at all, not to my monitor, not to my projector, not over HDMI, not over DVI. Furthermore, the BIOS would beep one long, two short each time I tried to turn the thing back on again. Otherwise the PC would still boot, I just couldn't see anything. Pretty much all I could do was use keyboard commands to shut it back off nicely.

A little Googling told me that the beep sequence on my mobo (GIGABYTE 890XA) indicated a video problem, and at first I suspected my GPU was to blame. So I swapped out the GTX 770 (which is less than a year old) with my old GTX 460. Same issue, no display whatsoever, 1-2 beep sequence. I was just about to try removing the battery on my mobo when I remembered that I've got a second PCI slot. Gave that a go with the 460, and boom, PC booted up. Tried with the 770, and same old thing.

In the process I managed to force shut down the PC a number of times, which has given my hard drives a few fixable errors, and as it stands I now have a GTX 770 that won't work in either PCI slot on my motherboard and a GTX 460 that does work but only in the lower PCI slot.

So now we get down to the questions:

1) Which killed what, the GTX 770 or the mobo? May not even matter--at this point it looks like they're both in trouble.

2) Can the GTX 770 really be concluded dead if it doesn't work in either PCI slot BUT it does power on with fans and all?

3) Is it safe to keep using my current motherboard with my GTX 460, or should I replace it immediately? Am I at risk of it frying all my other parts, or did I only lose a PCI slot over the GPU going bad?

For all the bad smell, I have thoroughly checked every component of the PC and found absolutely nothing that looks burnt. The HDMI port on my GTX 770 looks different than the HDMI port on my laptop (I can see pins sticking through the plastic on the end of the 770's port whereas on my laptop it's solid plastic) but I don't know if that is serious enough to cause this kind of problem.

I will also say that both cards have to sit slightly crooked in my motherboard in order to fit with my case's mount (Fractal Define R4) but it's not extreme.

I have a feeling something is going to need to be replaced here, but before I go out spending money and submitting RMAs I'd like to make sure I'm doing the right thing. My assessment would be the GPU fried the mobo PCI slot and killed them both in the process, meaning I'll have to replace both to have a fully working system again. I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.
 
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The problem could be any number of things. A worrisome scenario that fits the symptoms is an improperly grounded outlet that could end up applying a high voltage to the chassis of the projector (through the EMI filter): the shield of the HDMI cable would ground the ungrounded device if it made contact first (probably glitching the power supply and causing a reboot), but if a signal pin made contact first it could apply high voltage to the video card and fry it. There's also a shock hazard in this case so even though it's unlikely it would be a good idea to check your grounds.

On the specific questions:
1. I'm guessing the GTX770 fried and damaged the first slot.
2. If the GTX460 works in the second slot and the GTX770 doesn't, I'd...

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The problem could be any number of things. A worrisome scenario that fits the symptoms is an improperly grounded outlet that could end up applying a high voltage to the chassis of the projector (through the EMI filter): the shield of the HDMI cable would ground the ungrounded device if it made contact first (probably glitching the power supply and causing a reboot), but if a signal pin made contact first it could apply high voltage to the video card and fry it. There's also a shock hazard in this case so even though it's unlikely it would be a good idea to check your grounds.

On the specific questions:
1. I'm guessing the GTX770 fried and damaged the first slot.
2. If the GTX460 works in the second slot and the GTX770 doesn't, I'd say the GTX770 is dead.
3. No guarantees, but I would expect it's safe to continue to use the motherboard (although I'd be cautious about putting expensive new stuff into it).
 
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LukeLC

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That is a solid explanation about the HDMI and does indeed make perfect sense in my scenario. The rest pretty much confirms my own suspicions, but since that is kind of what I was looking for anyway I will mark this as solved.

A bit more information: my first PCI-E slot miraculously started working again! Did not expect that. Still avoiding it for now just because I no longer trust it after a number of failed boots. After trying the GTX 460 and GTX 770 in both slots again, I can confirm the 770 is dead. Fans come on, but BIOS triggers a video error every time and I get 0 video output. Thankfully it is under warranty. RMA, here I come. I'm still wondering if I should replace the mobo but as it is booting now with my old GPU at least it appears I can use it long enough to figure out what to do. And I'll definitely be keeping my nose open for any more weird electrical smells coming from it, though I do think per your explanation a faulty HDMI outlet was to blame there and that shouldn't happen again.

Thanks for the info
 

LukeLC

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Ah, at first I thought that's what you meant, but the chances of that being a problem seemed so low to me that I interpreted it differently. The projector is actually not plugged straight into a wall, it's connected to a power strip, so there's two points at which it is grounded. I plug all sorts of things into that projector, too, and nothing else has shown any signs of strange behavior. The GPU, on the other hand, has been behaving oddly for weeks, and not just with the projector. It just so happened that that's when things went crazy, but it's done the same thing the other way around, going from projector to monitor. Since the card is still under warranty I've submitted an RMA request and will hopefully get a replacement. In the meantime I'll keep a close eye on the mobo but it seems to be functioning normally again and while my GTX 460 isn't as awesome as it once was it will hold me over.