How bad of a bottleneck is this cpu on my gpu

digihex

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I recently bought COD:AW for pc and I have been having pretty bad stuttering moments in the game. I do not play this game on all high I play it all on low. I have already updated my drivers on my gpu to the latest beta drivers. I feel like my cpu is bottle-necking my gpu to the max and this is why I am having these issues. My plan is to upgrade to a 8350 since apparently the chipset on my MB supports it well. Do you think this would help fix my issues?

Specs:
Motherboard: Gigabyte 970A-d3P
CPU: Phenom II x4 840(3.2ghz)
Ram: corsair xms 3 2x(4) 8 GB 1333 mhz
GPU: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 Dual-X 2GB OC
PSU: Corsair 850 watt
Hard drive 1 (Primary hard drive): Corsair Force GT 125 gb SSD
Hard drive 2(Games save here): 1 TB HHD
Hard drive 3: usb 3.0 1 TB harddrive toshiba
 
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Yep, moving from a that phenom to a i5 will give you better results, but they will not be very different thant those that he will get with a 8350, because the op is using a 270x. Unless he plans to get a better card or start doing crossfire/sli, a 4690k will not give better results.

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Yup, that CPU is bottlenecking your GPU almost for certain. A 8350 will help but not by much. The real difference will occur when you switch to an Intel CPU. The difference will be very surprising going from Phenom II X4 840 to an i5-4690K, especially if you overclock the 4690K to 4.5+Ghz. Depending on how bad your CPU bottleneck was, it is likely you'll see almost double the FPS with the same GPU.
 

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I beg to differ there, while the 4690k is superior to a 8350, he is only using a 270X, and there will be not a significant difference between the two CPUs that justifies getting a new board and a more expensive CPU, he'd be spending like $200-$300 bucks more only to get 2-3 more FPS with that card.
 

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Already moving from an 6-core FX-6100 to an i5-4670K nets you double the FPS with the R9 290x in COD:AW :
http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-Call_of_Duty_Advanced_Warfare-test-cod_proz_amd.jpg


Going from Phenom II Quad to an i5-4670K will definitely net you a lot more than 2-3 FPS with the 270X. A lot more.

I highly recommend this upgrade and would be very interested in your results.
 

mlga91

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Yep, moving from a that phenom to a i5 will give you better results, but they will not be very different thant those that he will get with a 8350, because the op is using a 270x. Unless he plans to get a better card or start doing crossfire/sli, a 4690k will not give better results.
 
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digihex

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My original plan was to crossfire this with another 270 but I think I be better off simply buying a 290x or something of the sort. I honestly am not worried about it that much though cause this gpu isn't even that bad.

I think I will just got for the 8350. I was hoping I could get a good estimate of the boost of fps I would get and performance. I was not trying to go over 200 bucks. Unless I see a good upgrade diy deal on newegg for intel cpus I am more then likely not gonna change.
 
PASSMARK single thread scores are very useful:

Phenom II X4 965:
1193

FX-8350:
1509

i5-4690K:
2240

Analysis:
Roughly speaking, this score (if four or more cores) tells you the frame rate difference at the point of total CPU bottleneck. Thus, if you upgraded to the FX-8350 and it still remained a CPU bottleneck you would gain at most an improvement of:

26% (1509/1193)

If we compare the i5-4690K by the same logic we get:
87%

Again, these represent completely CPU bottlenecked scenarios but it's a good indication of relative performance. Put another way the i5-4690K is about 48% faster than the FX-8350 on a per core basis. The FX-8350 has more cores but more than four are rarely used (fully).

Summary:
Not sure what to say here. The FX-8350 isn't a huge upgrade for games that can't use more than four cores. The Intel CPU however is but it needs a motherboard obviously and possibly a new copy of Windows of you don't own Windows 8.

*If you've got pretty bad stutter then I don't think the FX-8350 is going to make a lot of difference. Rather, it may be the game itself so a future PATCH may help: http://segmentnext.com/2014/11/03/call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-crashes-low-fps-errors-graphics-performance-stuttering-and-textures-fixes/

More info: http://www.dsogaming.com/pc-performance-analyses/call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-pc-performance-analysis/

*Photonboy's analysis of the above link:
The i7 uses 23% (six-core) so we can compare to the X4-965 like this using Passmark scores:

i7-4930K-> 0.23 X 13132 = 3020

X4-965-> 4271

This is a weird way to do it but it appears like your CPU should be able to handle this game fairly well. Thus, I'm pretty sure getting a better CPU won't make much difference on your average frame rate. Again, I think it's a software issue with the game, or possibly drivers.

As for the link above also note:

"In order to find out whether this title can be played with constant 60fps on a variety of PC systems, we simulated a dual-core, a tri-core and a quad-core system. All of the aforementioned systems were able to push constant 60fps. However, we do have to note that on our simulated dual-core system there was noticeable stuttering issues that went away as soon as we enabled Hyper Threading. Owners of really old dual-core CPUs may be able to overcome those stuttering issues by overclocking their CPUs..."






 
Sorry my above post ended up quite long. My main point is that his stuttering doesn't seem to be a CPU issue. Please either read fully or jump to my last LINK which tests the game's CPU performance.

Specifically the last PARAGRAPH above.

Or just read this:
"Quite frankly, the minimum PC requirements are spot on. A dual-core CPU is enough for this latest COD game... "
 

digihex

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I just used msi afterburner and my gpu stayed almost always at 22%. The highest it ever went was 44%. I also was looking at my cpu in task manager and the second it hit 100% usage I would get huge stuttering fits.
 

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Yeah that's a huge CPU bottleneck