How come my rig cant run most games but a ps4 can?

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

My rig, is not that bad:
Amd r7 265
Amd Athlon x4 630 @ 2.8ghz
8 gb gddr3 ram

My computer can run most game on medium/ high. But im wondering on other games like assassins creed unity, far cry 4, and gta 5, my computer cant even run them at minimum settings. But the ps4 can run all these games flawlessly. I've searched for this question, but no one gave a good reason why. How is this possible?

Icaraeus · Nov 17, 2014

Firstly, the PS4 is more powerful than your computer. Secondly, Assassin's Creed Unity is terribly optimized, Far Cry 4 is designed for high end rigs and you should be able to run GTAV.

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

Icaraeus :

Alright thanks, but how come the ps4 is more powerful than my pc? I have a ps4, but honestly I hated it so much that i gave it to my little brother. I've spent about $120 more dollars on my pc than the ps4, why was it so cheap?

SpookyApple · Nov 17, 2014

You have a low end gaming pc, thats why.

Icaraeus · Nov 17, 2014

The PS4 has a custom 8-core AMD Jaguar CPU that runs at a base clock of 1.7Ghz but it can ramp up to 2.8Ghz according to Sony. Benchmarks have shown that this CPU is quite weak, however the point that the PS4 will really shine at is HUMA/GPGPU rendering, where basically utilising the 8GB GDDR5 memory and internal graphics chip that the PS4 has the GPU in the PS4 will be able to take care of all of the physics and AI rendering that really bogs down a CPU but is really efficient on a GPU.

The PS4 has a greater bandwidth than your GPU and it is shared as well. On top of this, the 8GB of GDDR5 that is shared between the CPU and GPU of the PS4 will help as the heterogenous nature of the PS4's architecture removes any normal bottlenecks that come from streaming textures in. The total performance of the PS4's GPU is known, but not completely as it does take tech from existing high end GPUs like the 290X which is significantly better than your GPU. Regardless, the proven teraflops performance of the PS4's GPU is greater than the R7 265. The PS4 is sold for a loss but isn't so cheap that Sony loses so much money selling it. The reason it is so cheap is because the PS4 has to be cheap enough so that people can buy them.

SentinelFPS · Nov 17, 2014

When you say that you have spent $140 more, it makes me think your rig is worth $600. Which I assume it is. $600 is generally a low end gaming PC. All the graphic power of your computer comes from mainly the processor and the CPU.

Icaraeus · Nov 17, 2014

SentinelFPS :

^ You mean the CPU and the GPU, you said CPU twice

The three core parts of a computer are the CPU, graphics chip or card (GPU) and the RAM.

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

Icaraeus :

The PS4 has a custom 8-core AMD Jaguar CPU that runs at a base clock of 1.7Ghz but it can ramp up to 2.8Ghz according to Sony. Benchmarks have shown that this CPU is quite weak, however the point that the PS4 will really shine at is HUMA/GPGPU rendering, where basically utilising the 8GB GDDR5 memory and internal graphics chip that the PS4 has the GPU in the PS4 will be able to take care of all of the physics and AI rendering that really bogs down a CPU but is really efficient on a GPU.

The PS4 has a greater bandwidth than your GPU and it is shared as well. On top of this, the 8GB of GDDR5 that is shared between the CPU and GPU of the PS4 will help as the heterogenous nature of the PS4's architecture removes any normal bottlenecks that come from streaming textures in. The total performance of the PS4's GPU is known, but not completely as it does take tech from existing high end GPUs like the 290X which is significantly better than your GPU. Regardless, the proven teraflops performance of the PS4's GPU is greater than the R7 265. The PS4 is sold for a loss but isn't so cheap that Sony loses so much money selling it. The reason it is so cheap is because the PS4 has to be cheap enough so that people can buy them.

thats upsetting, but thanks for the help. Also, what upgrades do you recommend, my max budget is $300, but will go to $350 if i have to.

Icaraeus · Nov 17, 2014

I would buy a GTX 970 and get an Intel Core i3, i5 or get an AMD FX 8320. If you can't afford the GTX 970 there's always the R9 280 or the 270X which is significantly faster than your current GPU, but not massively. Do expect to play games at ultra/very high settings though if you can afford this. Don't forget motherboard as well: for Intel go with the H97 platform. I'm not particularly knowledgeable of AMD motherboards, I think the one for the FX 8xxx series is FM3+.

tiny voices · Nov 17, 2014

What motherboard do you have?

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

tiny voices :

its the DELL INSPIRON 570 AMD SMT SYSTEM MOTHERBOARD 4GJJT 04GJJT CN-04GJJT 48.3BJ01.011

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

Icaraeus :

wait, i thought my mother board cant support the fx series since its an am3 socket?

tiny voices · Nov 17, 2014

So, this is a prebuilt then, that you added a GPU to?

tiny voices · Nov 17, 2014

Tacticall993 :

Icaraeus :

wait, i thought my mother board cant support the fx series since its an am3 socket?

Correct, it does not.

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

tiny voices :

Yes, i changed the psu, and added the gpu.

tiny voices · Nov 17, 2014

What PSU is it in now?

Ans you have the monitor connected to the GPU, not the motherboard right?

Icaraeus · Nov 17, 2014

You should consider what I recommended for you - it'd be a good upgrade for you. Also, what PSU is it?

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

tiny voices :

I'm not 100% sure of the brand, but its a 500 watt psu. And that is correct, i have the monitor connecting to my gpu.

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

Icaraeus :

alright, im not sure of the brand, but its a 500 watt psu

Tacticall993 · Nov 17, 2014

Icaraeus :

Also, what Intel cpu do you recommend thats under $150, and will i be able to switch from amd to intel?

tiny voices · Nov 17, 2014

You will have to reinstall Windows. And if your copy is OEM, which it probably is, you might have to buy it again.

How come my rig cant run most games but a ps4 can?

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