Crucial MX100 or Samsung 850 Pro for SSD

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So I've been looking around on the internet, reading up on SSDs because I want to get a piece of that action. I'm mostly looking forward to speeding up my gaming performance, but I am also going to start recording videos.

The plan is to get a 1TB VelociRaptor and a 512GB SSD; the question is which 512GB SSD to get. I've read up on RAPID, but I'm still not entirely sure what it does or if I want/need it. That's the only major difference between the two, right? If I found no need for the RAPID tech, would it be much of a difference to step down to an 840?

Also, would it be worth it to get a PCIe SSD to avoid the SATA bottleneck?

Thanks in advance for your input; Tom's has always been such a great resource.
 
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If you:
Want to spend LOTS of money for high-end speed, the 850 Pro is your choice

Are looking for a value SSD, the MX100 is your choice.

Are looking for something in-between these two, the 840 EVO is your choice.

PCIe SSDs cost a TON and aren't worth it. The SATA III interface will NEVER be bottlenecked, even not by SSDs, as nothing can achieve a 6 Gbit/sec transfer rate.

In the long run, the 850 Pro might be a bit more worth it.
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840 EVO is still a good SSD. You can go with 850 Pro if you willing to put up with Samsung pricing.
Crucial MX100 is another solid choice, either Samsung or Crucial SSD are fine.
Right now 256GB is the sweet spot. 512GB is still kinda pricy for the amount of storage you get. Of course, if you can afford it they go ahead.

For a normal user, a SSD is fine, you don't really need PCIe SSD.
If form factor is an issue and if your motherboard support M.2, then M.2 SSD is another choice.
 
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If you:
Want to spend LOTS of money for high-end speed, the 850 Pro is your choice

Are looking for a value SSD, the MX100 is your choice.

Are looking for something in-between these two, the 840 EVO is your choice.

PCIe SSDs cost a TON and aren't worth it. The SATA III interface will NEVER be bottlenecked, even not by SSDs, as nothing can achieve a 6 Gbit/sec transfer rate.

In the long run, the 850 Pro might be a bit more worth it.
 
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I don't quite understand, zeyuanfu. You say the 850 Pro might be worth it in the end; is that due to the RAPID technology that I don't understand, or is that due to the V-NAND that I also don't understand?
 
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Well, The Rapid mode is a bonus, since it uses your system RAM as a cache to make read/write speeds go faster. It also uses V-NAND, which is basically stacking storage cells together instead of making them smaller for higher densities.
As I said, if you have a LOT of money for an SSD, the 850 Pro would be for you, but if you're strapped for cash, the MX100 would be your choice.
 
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Well the 850 Pro 256GB doesn't seem to expensive, but I keep a lot of games installed at once; between my OS and games alone I am around 180GB, and I have pre-ordered GTAV and the Withcer 3.

I had read that SSDs increase in speed as you increase their capacity, with diminishing returns beyond the 512GB mark. Is that accurate?
 
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Well, yes and no. When you jump from 128 GB to 256 GB, you'll see a speed increase (that's what Samsung claims), but when going from 356 to 512 or 1 TB, there's no speed increase. For the most bang for your buck, go with a 256 GB SSD, a large (perhaps 2 TB) HDD and a small 64 GB SSD for Intel Rapid Storage Technology (at least I think that's what it's called).
 
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Okay, so the 256GB 850 Pro and the 1TB VelociRaptor are good choices then. What's this about getting a 64GB SSD? Is that for the Windows install? Is there a resource I should read about that?
 
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I wouldn't really get a Velociraptor drive if you were looking to value, but that's not my main point.
The SSD is for Smart response Technology (http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/smart-response-technology.html). You basically pair a up to 64 GB SSD with an HDD to make read/write operations much faster, using the SSD as a sort of cache. If you can afford a Velociraptor drive, then you probably can afford that. If not, get a Blue or Barracuda drive.
 
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Okay, last question(s): the 850 Pro is a 2.5" drive; is there a recommended mounting or adapter or whatever, because my computer case only has space for conventional drives. Also, do these drives come with SATA cables, or should I plan on getting some of those as well? And finally, what is a recommended 64GB SSD to be used for caching for the backup HDD?
 
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Most case will support 2.5 inches. Look carefully for the holes on the drive tray.
And there no need for a 64 SSD for caching if you getting an SSD.
 
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Okay, well I was looking at this <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145912">this Hitatchi HDD</a>. It says it's got a 64MB cache. Is that the same thing as you are talking about, or should I still look into getting a 64GB SSD for faster caching? I was looking at getting <a href="http://biz.tigerdirect.com/p/computer-components/solid-state-drives/sata-ssd/transcend-ssd340-internal-64-gb-solid-state-drive-2-5-sata-6gb-s-520mb-s-read-ts64gssd340">this</a> little drive, figuring that reliability wouldn't be as critical if I'm not actually using it to store data.
 
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If you getting the 850 Pro, you don't need a 64 GB SSD for caching.
If you getting a 850 Pro with a HDD, you don't need a 64 SSD for caching.
If you just getting a 1 TB hard drive, you could get a 64 SSD for caching.
IMO just get a SSD+HDD combo, Not a 64 SSD cache+HDD combo.
 
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