Please help build amazing MULTI-TASKING PC! (Im a noob halp plx!)

Mitch112

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Hi Guys,

I know there's a TON of AMD FX 8350 computer build questions here but mine is not like all the others.

The system I want to build IS going to be used for 3d games HOWEVER.. (wait for it).. rendering is going to be DISABLED on these games! As my computer will be controlled by a macro I am in no need for a high end graphics card.

I am really wanting to know if an AMD build is going to be better than an Intel build for multi tasking (doesnt need to render much at all, no need to focus on fps). Its sole purpose is to run more games at a lower cpu usage and possibly have pretty decent Ghz to start with.

So is it better for me to use a FX8350 with H100i cooler? Or is there something better? The CPU usage will likely be near max regardless whether Intel or AMD.. I hope you understand what im asking here.. The computer needs to be left on 24/7 every day of the month and kept cool and stable throughout without dieing on me.. If someone could make a really good build or 2 and let me know the prices It would be greatly appreciated...

Sorry for the big wall of text.. I really need your help guys lol

Many people have stated:
Godlygamer23, on 19 Jun 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:
4770K would be more efficient. 8350 may win.
This basically.

From what I've read, GHz to GHz, AMD's CPU's are far less efficient. If you compare an AMD 4 core @ 4.4GHz to an Intel 4 core @ 4.4GHz, the Intel will win easily.

The only reason the 8350 MIGHT win is because it has more cores. And even then, it would do worse on individual tasks but better overall (being able to do better on many tasks).

^ Is this correct? I have read this in ALOT of places on youtube etc but then I went over to PCspecialist.co.uk and they tried to talk me into buying Intel instead? Even though I tried to reason that AMD has 8 real cores which could be utilised better? He stated they cant.. and the 4 core intel with 4 hyperthreaded would be best..

Whats the truth guys? On Intel as it would be cooler or AMD with cooling system? Whichever you decide, would overclocking the computer enable me to still leave it on 24/7 running these games at high cpu?

Thanks guys
 

popatim

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The truth is AMD dopesnt have 8 real cores either. it has 4 modules which have two execution units and some shared resources between them (such as the floating point unit (math stuff). The fx8--- series has 4 modules. The Fx6--- has three. Now this is a decent design for most users needs but anything computationally heavy leaves the execution units waiting for access to the shared resources which is why intels can win with their 4 cores in those tasks.

Don't get me wrong, some things the Fx line handles extremely well, such as rendering videos. but the reality is that the modern intel cpus can do about the same work at a lower clock rate. Although the FX is a new architecture, the processing ability still isn't a huge improvement over the old Phenom2 line.

A definitive answer cannot be obtained without analyzing your workload and investigating if hyper-threading is a benefit or detriment. If its computationally lite then an fx will probably work well for you but probably not at the level an i7 would; then again the i7 has a much higher price tag for its performance.

IMO, if you have the money get the i7, if you're on a budget then get the 8350 and hope for the best.
 

Mitch112

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I currently have a dell xps 8700 (Intel core i7-4770) with AMD radeon R9 270.

The reason I asked for the advise was purely because some guy thats doing the same thing as me (running multiple instances of a game window with rendering disabled) claims he can run 24 instances of this game on his 4.0 standard 8350 black edition where as my Intel i7-4770 is currently able to run like 18 instances and be at 90% cpu sometimes higher.. we both have 32 gigs of ram.. he claims that with his cpu at 95% he is running 24 instances:

[18/11/2014 01:38:01] xxxx: so basically hyperthread was to prevent from having to put physical cores in to the processor to get better eff.
[18/11/2014 01:38:13] xxxx basically running a program that was taking alot of cpu it handled it better
[18/11/2014 01:38:33] xxxx: but running many small programs that dont take up a lot of CPU each but as a total they do. it doesnt work as well as physical cores
[18/11/2014 01:38:42] xxxx i can split the load on pysical cores
[18/11/2014 01:38:52] xxxx: put 4 games per core if i wanted to
[18/11/2014 01:44:01] xxxx: AMD 8350 8 core 4.0 with 32 gigs of ram 2 AMD r 270x graphic cards
[18/11/2014 01:44:03] xxxx: and water cooling
[18/11/2014 01:44:05] xxxx: and 5 fans
[18/11/2014 01:44:08] xxxx: and fan controller
[18/11/2014 01:44:10] xxxx: with full case tower

How is this guy running an extra 6 instances on an 8350? Is it purely because of the 4.0 ghz? My pc is 3.4ghz.