Is AMD going out of business due to every great game coming out being %100 optimized for NVIDIA only?

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

So far every game worth playing this year is going to be %100 optimized for NVIDIA and will play so bad if not being playable at all on AMD. Assassins Creed Unity, Far Cry 4, and may others can not even run on AMD cards or atleast not even goot. My friends i7 and AMD R9-295x2 cant even handle the Unity at a playable FPS due to low FPS and a LOT of stutters. Is this going to be the Downfall of AMD? I know there are some crappy games like Alien Isolation, Dragon Age inqusistion or whatever the heck that weird games called, Murdered Souls Suspect, and many other low rated, horible graphical games that are optimized for AMD but they are just trash in reviews and money the company made from them. I am an AMD guy and to me it just looks like AMD is going out of gaming from the looks of it. What do you guys think?

Someone Somewhere · Nov 20, 2014

Thsi sounds unlikely...

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

Someone Somewhere :

-But ever good game coming out is NVIDIA optimized and made to where AMD cards will not run them good at all. If there is no good games out there than how is AMD going to sell? NVIDIA makes better quality and better performing cards as it is so the lack of being able to use AMD cards to play games is going to hurt AMD even more. Look up AMD`s stock market it is so low i do not think they will recover.....ever.

Ryanrenesis · Nov 20, 2014

The downfall of AMD is they have very poor marketing and public relations. They don't "connect" as well with game companies as Nvidia does. Nvidia has its own Gameworks that work with many major gaming companies to have the best Nvidia experience straight out of launch.

Conrad Pinto · Nov 20, 2014

Dragon Age inqusistion is not trash.

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

Conrad Pinto :

Well ok i may have been blunt some but come on man compared to Skyrim it is trash in ever way, but for an EA game yea it is pretty decent. The graphics are very horrible but its ok.

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

Ryanrenesis :

Thats what i thought. I guess i wont be able to play any games on my R9-290

I wish i would have stayed with console. I know PC gaming itself is going to die and i dont want that to happen but i mean Console is dominating PC gaming in ever possible aspect in ever way, everywhere online says so, so many facts, even NVIDIA and AMD said it. I just can tbeleive i built a PC to find out that now AMD cards suck and wont be able to play any games this year........ $1300 down the drain. Wish id get a PS4 since itd be easier, cheaper, play every game, and never need to upgrade, and doesnt take 10 days to set up a server just to be able to play games with friends................I still lie PC more but god i made a big mistake

Conrad Pinto · Nov 20, 2014

Well it may be true that consoles are more popular than PC, but I seriously doubt that consoles are better than PCs. That annoying controller....:X

Ryanrenesis · Nov 20, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

Na PC gaming won't die, it just won't be optimized as well as before. Consoles hold 90% sales of games compared to PC's 10%. But games aren't made specifically for PC in the first place. They are made for consoles then ported to PC.

Porting doesn't cost a lot of money at all.

FYI, that is why I've boycotted AMD since 2010, both CPUs and GPUs they have been failing and failing.

bicycle_repair_man · Nov 20, 2014

There does seem to be a greater focus toward Nvidia but it's important to remember that AC: Unity and FC4 both come from the same publisher, Ubisoft, so they clearly show bias toward Nvidia hardware. You can say the same about AMD and the Battlefield series.

Whilst this may hurt AMD somewhat, they won't be closing up shop anytime soon. There are still plenty of AAA titles that run just fine on AMD hardware.

Ferrariassassin :

Fat chance.

Worldwide sales estimates put consoles at around 160 million, yet LoL has around 130 million subscribers. That's just one game, with around 27 million players every day! The Last of Us, arguably the greatest PS3 game ever, sold over 6 million copies in total. Diablo 3 sold that many copies in just one week!

All platforms have their strengths and weaknesses, but to say that PC gaming is going to die is ridiculous.

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

bicycle_repair_man :

There does seem to be a greater focus toward Nvidia but it's important to remember that AC: Unity and FC4 both come from the same publisher, Ubisoft, so they clearly show bias toward Nvidia hardware. You can say the same about AMD and the Battlefield series.

Whilst this may hurt AMD somewhat, they won't be closing up shop anytime soon. There are still plenty of AAA titles that run just fine on AMD hardware.

Ferrariassassin :

Fat chance.

Worldwide sales estimates put consoles at around 160 million, yet LoL has around 130 million subscribers. That's just one game, with around 27 million players every day! The Last of Us, arguably the greatest PS3 game ever, sold over 6 million copies in total. Diablo 3 sold that many copies in just one week!
True!

Do you think i made a good choice on getting an R9-290 and i5-4690? Do you think i could play Unity and Far Cry 4 at around 10 or 20FPS on low atleast?
All platforms have their strengths and weaknesses, but to say that PC gaming is going to die is ridiculous.

Undying89 · Nov 20, 2014

I guess you guys didnt read latest nvidia vs AMD in FC4 fiasco.
http://www.techspot.com/review/917-far-cry-4-benchmarks/page3.html

Conrad Pinto · Nov 20, 2014

Do you not see that every day on Tom's Hardware itself people ask 'Are these parts compatible?', 'Is this a good build?', etc. PC Gaming won't die!

bicycle_repair_man · Nov 20, 2014

An R9 290 is a good card that should still be good for a couple of years. Yes, you may have to sacrifice 60 fps and some advanced graphical settings, but so what? I've been running an HD 7850 for three years and am only just thinking about an upgrade, even though I don't really need it.

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

Conrad Pinto :

Compared to Console questions asked no it does not matter. For example look at the thousands and thousands if not millions of people at the announcement of the PS4 and Xbox ONE. When NVIDIA or AMD comes out with a new card there only business men there and i bet you'd hear crickets chirping in the background lol. I am a PC gamer but its true there are atleast %99.9 more Console gamers than PC gamers. We are a dying breed that is dying but is also immortal and cant die.

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

bicycle_repair_man :

I can handle RealVision ENB on skyrim at 40 stable FPS whish is more perfomrance demanding than any game in existance and also makes games like FarCry 4 and Unity look like an Atari 2600 game lol. Its craz How Skyrim is still years ahead of other games when modded.

Ryanrenesis · Nov 20, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

I definitely disagree it is "years ahead". All it is, is simply post-processing and ultra high textures. Lame & unimpressive. No global illumination, no tessellation, no deferred lightning, etc.

Skyrim is old now.

iron8orn · Nov 20, 2014

PC ftw!! Don't forget your 290 has the same architecture as both game systems with roughly the power of a hd 7850 so if a game is developed/optimized properly for consoles it will have nice game play when ported to pc.

renz496 · Nov 20, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

problem is DA: Inquisition is not Skyrim nor it want to become Skyrim wannabe. it may borrow some idea or inspiration from Skyrim open world nature but the game play is different and the way both game present their story also different.

well about the original question i don't think so. to be exact i don't think AMD will ever go out of business. intel need them to be alive to certain extend. but it is possible that AMD will become another VIA.

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

Ryanrenesis :

I guess millions of facts and Google lied than. If Skyrim does look unimpressive than every other game in existance looks extremely unimpressive. Talk down to Crysis 3, that game is so overrated just for its graphics i mean the game itself is garbage, the gameplay, and story are the worst i have seen it is just so sloppy. You may say Skyrim is Ugly but if you truly think that than every other game is extremely ugly. Tell me, what other game looks better or maybe even %10 close to skyrim. Age has nothing to do with what a games looks when it can be modded pretty much unlimited.

Someone Somewhere · Nov 20, 2014

Google doesn't tell you any facts. Google tells you what others think are facts.

I'm sure Google can tell me that dihydrogen monoxide is an extremely dangerous chemical and should be banned.

Ferrariassassin · Nov 20, 2014

Someone Somewhere :

Lol, i know that i was just giving and example.

smeezekitty · Nov 20, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

AC:U runs like crap on ALL hardware. It is just broken.
Farcry 4 runs just fine on AMD. And don't forget BF4 was an AMD game.

I could see AMD going out of the desktop CPU market but they won't go out of business.
They are still holding their own in the GPU market

renz496 · Nov 20, 2014

^Even on GPU side they starts slowing down. they used to be very aggressive with their GPU in the past. new series each year. and if possible will jump to new node every year. right now they were competitive in discrete GPU because nvidia did not go all out in one go like they did in the past (that's why we see Gxx04 chip being used in flagship card). i've already heard rumors that their new 300 series might repeat what we saw with 200 series. maybe only 390X/390 are truly new part. the 380s will be rebrand of current 290s and the 370s will based on Tonga.

Someone Somewhere · Nov 20, 2014

Everybody's slowing down in the GPU world. Nvidia is slower too.

We're getting close to the limit of what can be done with silicon and traditional manufacturing.

Is AMD going out of business due to every great game coming out being %100 optimized for NVIDIA only?

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