I need a computer build for black friday, help me please. first time.

ithelps · Nov 24, 2014

This is my first time building a computer, I hear it is easy, but I don't know. Regardless, I want to build a computer. I have some concerning questions though, maybe some of you could help answer.

1. Can I buy whatever hardware and pieces I want? Can I buy any kind of motherboard, any kind of cpu, any kind of graphics card, any kind of ram, any kind of case, any kind of battery, and it will fit and work? If not, how do I know what will work and what will not?

2. What if I plug the wrong piece in the wrong place, will it blow up when I start it up?

3. What is the hardest part to replace? And what is the most important piece I need? I hear CPU, true or not?

4. I am using this computer for league of legends, sony vegas, streaming on twitch. Maybe more gaming in the future. I don't really multi task. For example, when I play league I usually only stay on league, sometime maybe some browsing but nothing more. However, I do plan to stream so I may have streaming open with league of legends, and prehaps recorder to record my games. When I am using Sony Vegas, I most likely won't have anything open, except maybe for my chrome.

What build do you recommend for this? I also want to have 2 monitor. I will start with 1, but my dream is to have 3. Can you please give me a build for one or two monitor for now? Also black friday is near, so i want the best computer for the price. My budget is no more than 500 dollar. Cheaper can be better.

zeyuanfu · Nov 25, 2014

1, You cannot buy anything you want. Start by selecting a CPU socket, the one I'd recommend the LGA 1150. Then, get a CPU that fits that socket. I'd recommend the i3-4150. With a 500$ budget, you won't be getting a high-end GPU, so let's worry about that later. With LGA 1150, you'll need DDR3 RAM, and I'd recommend 8 GB. You can buy any kind of case, as long as the GPU and motherboard fits inside. You don't need a battery for a desktop PC.
2, Nothing will blow up unless you buy a crap 20$ PSU.
3, The hardest parts IMO to replace are the CPU, motherboard and case. To replace the CPU, you have to remove the heatsink, and that's fairly time-consuming. To replace the motherboard, you have to remove everything on it, and that's even more time-consuming. Finally, to replace the case, you're going to have to remove EVERYTHING inside, so you'll have to be patient.

I'd go with something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($97.27 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ Directron)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Tri-X Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($21.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $512.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-25 12:02 EST-0500

ithelps · Nov 25, 2014

zeyuanfu :

1, You cannot buy anything you want. Start by selecting a CPU socket, the one I'd recommend the LGA 1150. Then, get a CPU that fits that socket. I'd recommend the i3-4150. With a 500$ budget, you won't be getting a high-end GPU, so let's worry about that later. With LGA 1150, you'll need DDR3 RAM, and I'd recommend 8 GB. You can buy any kind of case, as long as the GPU and motherboard fits inside. You don't need a battery for a desktop PC.
2, Nothing will blow up unless you buy a crap 20$ PSU.
3, The hardest parts IMO to replace are the CPU, motherboard and case. To replace the CPU, you have to remove the heatsink, and that's fairly time-consuming. To replace the motherboard, you have to remove everything on it, and that's even more time-consuming. Finally, to replace the case, you're going to have to remove EVERYTHING inside, so you'll have to be patient.

I'd go with something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($97.27 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ Directron)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Tri-X Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($21.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $512.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-25 12:02 EST-0500

Thank You for your suggestion, what if I go with the AMD route? Do you recommend that? Also with the sapphire card, what if I go down to 2GB? Will that support 2 monitor? What more benefit would I get with a 3GB instead?

Also do I need that static wrist strap thing? Is it hard to build one?

zeyuanfu · Nov 25, 2014

I wouldn't go with AMD, especially if your budget allows for it. I wouldn't recommend it.
Sorry, but there is no 2GB version of the 280X. however, there's the weaker 285, but that's not the best you can get. 3 GB should support dual monitors, but not at very high resolutions i.e. 2 4K monitors.
If you ground yourself every five minutes or so, you should be good about ESD. If you want 100% assurance, you can get one, but for me, that's essentially five bucks down the drain. If you have a cat, though, it could be used as a toy

If you want to make one, you can just take a piece of electricity-conductive wire, wrap it around your wrist and connect it to a metal thing, i.e. a non painted metal part of your case.

ithelps · Nov 26, 2014

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Fm7PYJ

http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/gcTwrH/entry-level-gaming-build

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZnBmWZ

what is your opinion about these 3 or would you still choose your build over this?

logainofhades · Nov 26, 2014

LoL, fortunately doesn't require much, GPU wise. Even an HD 7770/R7 250x can easily getting high FPS with it. If you are going to be streaming your gameplay, I would want an i5 over an i3. Definitely want to stay with an AMD, GPU, for your Sony Vegas though. Sony Vegas does well with AMD GPU's.

ithelps · Nov 26, 2014

logainofhades :

Can you build me a computer? I prefer not to go beyond 500 dollars

logainofhades · Nov 26, 2014

Are you going to be streaming your gameplay, as you are playing? Recording it, would probably be better with an i5 as well, now that I think about it. If this was going to be just a straight up gaming rig, I would say definitely stick with the i3 and far better gpu.

ithelps · Nov 26, 2014

I will either be streaming and playing lol or recording and playing lol or all 3 at the same time. Then i will use sony vegas to edit and upload to youtube. I will begin with one monitor and soon get 2 monitors.

logainofhades · Nov 26, 2014

This is one of those rare instances, where I think I will recommend an FX 6300, given your budgetary limits. For LoL, it will still be plenty. This way you still have a decent GPU, should you decide you want to try something more demanding. Might want to consider another HDD or an SSD, to record your work to.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($84.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $495.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-26 16:40 EST-0500

ithelps · Nov 26, 2014

Thia build looks great, any chance you think price will drop before Tuesday?

First time building a PC and owning one, any tips on building it?

Will this support up to 2 or 3 monitor? Plan on getting some used 17 inch monitors off ebay? Do you recommend? What do i look for in monitor or does it not matter, i prefer something good for the eyes.

Also why you prefer i3 when 6300 benchmark is higher? I understand that their cores are weaker but they have triple the amount and cheaper

I am actually willing to either go with the 8250 or the 8230 because the price is very close. Should I go for it? If I choose the 8250 do I need to change any of the parts if so what do I need to change?

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