CPU and GPU don't get use 100%, never high FPS

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GodKingThoth

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Hello friends, I am stumped and have been for a long time. I just installed a new SSD, and I thought it would fix why games only run like 30-45 fps and my card and cpu never go up to 100. Well, I also just installed a Cooler Master Hyper 212.

I don't understand but please look here (screenshot from my second monitor during a game) http://i.imgur.com/R0GKRWH.png

I am also going over to Tom's hardware and asking. Any suggestions would be great

Windows 8.1 updated fully

ASUS 7870 Overclocked

AMD Athlon x4 750k

8gb RAM @ 1866 MHz

MSI FM2-a75ma-p33

Display: 1366x768

SSD: PNY Optima Series 240GB

To reiterate I'm trying to figure out why my system doesn't push it hard enough for better FPS
 
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SSD has nothing to do with ingame experience, only the loading of the game.

As for your problem, that CPU is simply too weak (all AMD FM2 are weak) so it's bottlenecking your GPU, and the CPU itself won't appear to be used at 100% because most games only use 1-2 cores.
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RaDiKaL_

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SSD has nothing to do with ingame experience, only the loading of the game.

As for your problem, that CPU is simply too weak (all AMD FM2 are weak) so it's bottlenecking your GPU, and the CPU itself won't appear to be used at 100% because most games only use 1-2 cores.
 
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For a start - you have no power supply.

A SSD won't make your games play any faster.

Next - do you think no matter what load it has that the CPU and GPU should be running at 100%? Even at idle?

Get CPU usage from Task Manager and post it. Also get CPU temp and post it. If its too hot, which these amd cpus do get easily, it could be throttling back.
 
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GodKingThoth

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My next upgrades will be motherboard and CPU
 
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Philipp Wagner

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It's not about "all AMDs". You got an "old" Athlon-Series. It has no feature to push itself to best performance. The newer generations of AMD have powerful self overclocking features or better architectures (APU aka. A-series
overclocks or the doubled FX Cores runs one process on two Threads)

What you can do before throwing your CPU to dump, is to ask somebody to overclock it fixed. That means, going to BIOS and change CPU presettings e.g. increase multiplier.

DONT do it yourself, it will produce more heat, which has to be cooled with a non-stock cooler and ! you can destroy your hardware on wrong settings !

=> Get a better cooler and an overclocking-dude fixing your system

It won't be fast like buying an new Intel or AMD FX-Core and board, but a single cooler (e.g. Watercooled PreSets like Corsair Hydros for unter 100$) will be cheaper than a new Core and make your games even better playable.

best regards

PS, my brother has the same CPU playing every game on it while its overclocked !
 
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While OCing it's CPU will help its performance it's video card will still be bottlenecked, I didn't recommend him to do it because of all the heat that practically demands as you suggest a water cooling solution, better save those 80-100$ (even more if he's going to pay somebody to do it) and invest it in a more efficient and faster product like Intel's offerings, sadly AMD hasn't been able to match Intel's performance yet.
 
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Philipp Wagner

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Dear, pls dont stick on that "Intel is best" opinion. It depends on your resource and what you can get out of it. Dont trash your CPU every year just because of 5-10% performance gain, like much Intel dudes do! Think about money and nature! Nevertheless it's his decision to spend about 250$ for a new CPU or upgrade the machine with an 80$ watercooler and give a pack of beer to a stranger. Even i would say the stranger upgrading it has to decide what his AMD still can perform.

The video card won't be a bottleneck at all. I got a HD7850 and its not bottlenecking my A10. 7800series are the "old" architecture of R7-R9 series. After all R9 270 is nothing different than a HD7870 just stock overclocked or a "Version 2" if you want.

As is already said:
It won't be fast like buying an new Intel or AMD FX-Core and board, but a single cooler (e.g. Watercooled PreSets like Corsair Hydros for unter 100$) will be cheaper than a new Core and make your games even better playable.
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PS! IF the video card will still bottleneck in your opinion while overclocking it would bottleneck the Intel too! So anything would be a bad idea. Is that what you meant? Yes trash the whole system and rebuild it! NO, please don't. :(
 
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The AMD CPU will bottleneck the video card, not the other way around, whereas the Intel ones having better performance (that's the sad reality since 2006) will allow the GPU to operate at it's full potential.

Right now it's your solution the one that will give him at most 10% while spending 80$+ at it, not really worth it, whereas a new mobo+cpu will easily give a 30%+ improvement with the big PLUS that he'll have a better upgrade path whereas with his current he won't get more than a 5-10% getting the best APU available.

And btw I do think about money, hence I got a FX-8320 with 8 cores for my primary purpose of virtual labs with several Vmachines and virtual routers, could have said "intel is best" but for it's price there's no better 8 core offering than the AMD solution. All I'm saying is that the best he can do right now is to save until he has enough for a new build, not worthy throwing money right now to a dead-end mobo/cpu.
 
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Philipp Wagner

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And that is what a reality stranger has to figure out. But i won't call it dead. You know, they call it "budget".


 
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Exactly. Now he knows he has to extend his budget for at least an i5 CPU + decent mobo.
 
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