R9 280 Windforce can't handle 1080p

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Greetings folks,

I have the following rig:


  • i5-3330
    HyperX 8GB 1600MHz
    R9 280 Windforce 3GB
    Corsair TX650

Problem is: I play on a 1600x900 monitor with everything maxed out (ex: Ryse at 60fps, Shadow of Mordor at 60fps, Watch Dogs at 40fps and etc). This monitor is 5 years old and it's showing signs that is going to die very soon (flickering image).

I'd like to buy a new 900p monitor and keep maxing games out but where I live they are not found anywhere. Only 1080p monitors. So I took my rig and tested in a 1080p TV to see how my rig does on it... The result is a 50% drop (really???) on fps in Ryse (20-30fps), Shadow of Mordor (20-30fps) and etc.

Question: Since I'm forced to buy a 1080p monitor and my GPU can't handle it very well (I can't undestand why though - CPU bottleneck???), I saw a Benq one (RL2240HE) with a SMART SCALING feature that promisses non-blurry non-native resolutions. Because I want to max out games and continue on 900p but in this case on a 1080p monitor... Is this a good choice/idea, to downscale resolution?

Thanks for the patience.
 
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iron8orn

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display processor maybe?

 
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1080p is pushing 2,073,600 pixels while your 900p as you call it is pushing 1,440,000. The only way you're not going to see a significant slow down is if your graphics card was being bottlenecked. I suspect that playing your games at the highest detail settings is causing your graphics card to be the bottleneck, even at your lowered resolution. If it's the case that your GPU is your bottleneck, I'm not sure what else to expect when you ask your graphics card to handle 40% more pixels except to lose a proportional amount of speed in the process. Personally, I would revisit the detail settings before playing at a non-native resolution on an LCD panel, but that's my personal preference. Hopefully somebody that has seen the Smart Scaling feature you're mentioning can chime in, otherwise, I really wouldn't trust it.
 
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I accidentaly clicked on Pick Solution! Sorry!

Can I check this at Task Manager?

 
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Alright guys, I downloaded GPU-Z and ran 4 tests (I used the GPU-Z log): Ryse @900p and @1080p / Shadow of Mordor @900p and @1080p. FPS data by Fraps. I played the same scenarios for the same amount of time. The results are (I will give average numbers):


RYSE @900p - FPS = 45-55 GPU Clock = Constant 1072.0 TEMP = 60º-65º GPU Load = avg. 70-80% with one peak of 100% Memory Usage =2800-3040MB

RYSE @1080p - FPS = 25-35 GPU Clock = Constant 1072.0 TEMP = 60º-65º GPU Load = avg. 40-50% with 5 peaks of 100% Memory Usage = Almost constant 3040MB

MORDOR @900p - FPS = 50-60 GPU Clock = 950.0-1072.0 TEMP = 60º-66º GPU Load = avg. 60-90% with one peak of 100% Memory Usage =2700-2900MB

MORDOR @1080p - FPS = 30-35 GPU Clock = 950.0-1072.0 TEMP = 60º-62º GPU Load = avg. 40-50% with 10 peaks of 100% Memory Usage =2700-2900MB

OBS: I must say that I live in a very hot place. Indoors temperatures are around 35º C.



 
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What is your CPU load? If your graphics device is being underutilized, it's because something else has hit a performance wall and your graphics card is waiting on it. It makes sense that as you increase the demand on your system, whatever is holding back your GPU at 900p is performing even worse at 1080p.
 
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On another note, make sure the piece of software you are using to measure your performance metrics isn't interfering with the performance of your GPU. I have had problems with poor and inconsistent performance in the past when running both Fraps and MSI's Afterburner, which is why I don't recommend them. Not saying everyone has problems, as obviously they work very well for a lot of people. My recommendation is, if you got results you are suspicious of, try more than one tool, and make sure you're only using one utility at a time.
 
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Oh really? I gotta tell you... I was fooled by benchmarks, I bought this GPU based on what I saw on specialized sites and blogs. The truth is disappointing... I was really hoping that was something I could work around like a card setting or something like this.
 
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I have a 7950 @ 1100 mhz core.


I can play mordor locked ultra textures high ( no AA cause I use sweet fx ) 60fps easy.
 
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Hmm...based on your signature CPU, do you think my i5-3330 is bottlenecking the R9? It runs @3.20 GHz.

 
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Try changing textures to high, no AA, turn off motion blur and depth of field.

Post back if it helped.

At 1080p you need to tweak settings, its a great card but it's not a r9 290x!~



Also sweet fx is your friend, google it and change your gaming experience!
 
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Textures were already on HIGH (I forgot to mention). There's no AA setting on Mordor but I turned Dept of Field and Motion Blur off and had not even 1fps gain... Same constant 30fps.

On Ryse I turned AA off and gained 4fps resulting 30-34fps.

I couldn't test CPU load because CPU-Z doesn't have a tool like GPU-Z... Any recommendation?

Thanks again
 
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msi afterburner has that option.



check temps, cpu usage while gaming
 
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well most benchies of the "280" clearly states that it is disappointing. maybe you mistakenly bought it and thought you were buying a "280x"? i almost fell for this, even with the 270x/270.

 
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Nope, I saw the exact model I own: GA R9 280 (non-X) Windforce. On Tomb Raider benchmarks I saw 40fps avg. with TressFX on at 1080p. I got barely 30fps.

As for the MSI Afterburner CPU load test, for now I could only run at 900p. Mordor I tested on a crowded area and Ryse on the Beach Invasion level with lots of explosions and stuff. However it's very strange that I got very different results on GPU Load. GPU-Z gave me almost half percentage on that aspect in Mordor...

MORDOR:
GPU: 66º C, 98%-100%
FPS: avg. 50fps
CPU1: 55%
CPU2: 31%
CPU3: 61%
CPU4: 48%

RYSE:
GPU: 60º C, 50-60%
FPS: avg. 40fps
CPU1: 64%
CPU2: 58%
CPU3: 50%
CPU4: 61%
 
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