Can't go higher then 3.4 Ghz on my Intel Quad Core Q9550

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Hello Everyone, I overclocked my Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 from 2.83 Ghz -> 3.4 Ghz.
My problem is actually, if I let the 3.4 Ghz, and I boot into Windows, after some minutes, the computer freezes or restarts from himself. So I went to 3.3 Ghz, and its stable now, good temperatures, no freeze, nothing. I saw on some other forums that the minimum overclock with a good cooler should be minimum 3.4-3.6 Ghz with this processor. Also, when I go to 3.5 or higher, its giving me a Overclocking Failure, press F1 to Setup, and F2 load setup defaults. Here on this link you can see my BIOS settings: http://imgur.com/v5ZhP5x,M45rV5R,0PLKwtp,F5739yH

My specs are:
CPU: Intel Quad Core Q9550
CPU COOLER: Cooler Master TPC-800 (( With two fans on the side ))
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS P5E3 WS PRO
VIDEOCARD: NVIDIA GTX 260
RAM: KINGSTON KVR1333 D3N9K2/4G 8GB RAM 4x 2 GB
SSD: INTEL 60 GB SSD
 
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Freezing sometimes in Windows means you are running an unstable overclock!

I've already warned you regarding pushing that 1333mhz Kingston Value Ram that far, Value Ram is not overclocking memory! It is the cheap budget line of memory, meant to be rock solid at 1333mhz, not pushed where you are pushing it!

Obviously there is something about overclocking that you do not...
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"Spread Spectrum" settings will significantly limit your overclock, so make sure they're disabled. Also, you may need to increase Vcore, but don't exceed 1.400. The Q9550 with a decent VID will overclock to 4.0GHz at 8.5 Multiplier x 470 FSB. The challenge is reaching a stable 470 MHz FSB. GTL settings can be tricky.

One of my previous rigs is a Q9650 on an Asus P5Q Deluxe overclocked to 4.2 GHz at 9.0 x 467. It's one of my favorites, and still considered to be fairly snappy.

CT :sol:
 
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Thanks! I putted the Vcore a little bit higher, and now I overclocked him to 3.70 Ghz, but is there actually any way to show the Ghz in Windows? Its still giving me 2.83 Ghz in Windows.
 
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Try using CPU-z.

Windows built in functionality won't display changes to core clocks from my experiences.
 
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That DDR3 1333mhz Kingston Value Ram will be holding you back I see you've already overclocked it to 1533mhz and with KVR that's great right there, if it is stable?

I ran 2,000mhz DDR3 memory when I overclocked my Q9550 to 4ghz, the memory had no problems increasing the FSB to 470 and with juggling voltages that's really how I even reached 4ghz with it air cooled using a Xigmatek S-1283 cooler.

I was looking through my records for my Q9550 BIOS settings and I was at the end of the composition book with the 3.4G settings they won't do you much good as I was using 2,000mhz memory on an ASUS Striker II Extreme motherboard.

The Striker II Extreme BIOS is not directly comparable as it was running an Nvidia chipset, however voltage ranges should be close for the Q9550.
My BIOS settings for 3.4ghz:
FSB = 400mhz (probably won't reach that with the memory you're running?) x 8.5x (8.5x is the Q9550s multiplier) = 3400mhz (Linked & Sync'd)
CPU ID VC = 1.344v
Vcore = 1.31250v
LLC = Disabled
PLL = 1.50v
VTT = 1.26v
NB = 1.30v
SB = Aut0
GTL 0, GTL 1, GTL 2, GTL 3, = All on Auto (For 3.4ghz for sure, and possibly to 3.6ghz? going to higher clocks required individual GTL settings)
NB GTL = Auto

These settings may be useless to you just because it was an Nvidia Chipset Motherboard, so if you try them it's of course at your own risk.
 
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Reaching 3.70ghz and being stable at 3.70ghz is 2 completely different things, be careful pushing that memory that far.

 
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Well, I've putted him on 3.7, but its freezing sometimes in Windows, so I need always to restart my PC. If I let it like this, then Windows 8.1 is giving me a: You ran into a problem issue. Also my RAM is about 1801 Mhz, I think that's a bit too high, is there a solution to put it lower? And what is the issue of freezes? Too low voltage? Or RAM issue?
 
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Freezing sometimes in Windows means you are running an unstable overclock!

I've already warned you regarding pushing that 1333mhz Kingston Value Ram that far, Value Ram is not overclocking memory! It is the cheap budget line of memory, meant to be rock solid at 1333mhz, not pushed where you are pushing it!

Obviously there is something about overclocking that you do not understand, stability is everything if you intend trusting your important data to that overclock, because sir, you can loose everything!

Now if you don't care if you loose everything and you are just after an overclock number, then by all means continue, and reap your rewards.

I suggest you back off, and take the time to understand what can happen running your system unstable.

Possible: data loss, file corruption, driver corruption, memory producing errors, possible HDD page file or cache failure, premature power supply failure, and eventually boot and operating system failure, and then you end up with a crippled system, and forced to do a complete scratch re-installation of your operating system, IF, you manage not to seriously damage your hardware!

Good luck to you, You're gonna need it! Ryan

 
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Hello, well I already had some freezes, and Windows 8.1 won't start up, bootmgr missing too, and stuff, well I braught him back to stock now, and I think I'll leave it there. But, what will my upgrade be now? Get new RAM to overclock my CPU and a new GPU? Or get a new CPU and new GPU and new RAM?
 
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The first thing that comes to mind is, I told you so!

The 2nd thing that comes to mind is learn first and then do, never overclock anything with only partial information of how to do it!

You can begin here.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/259899-29-core-overclocking-guide

 
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If you do not know the answers to those questions you should not even be overclocking, study the guide I linked for you, study means read and comprehend what you're reading, don't just skim over it, study it, it will help you reach your goal.

I'm done with this thread someone else will have to help you from here, Good Luck and Good Bye.

 
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Zitheny,

Respectfully, the nature of your questions suggest that you prefer to ask someone rather than read for yourself. Don't expect anyone here to spoon-feed you information. You are the only person here responsible for conducting your overclocking research.

A few uninformed questions are fine, but eventually it becomes obvious that you are ill-equipped to overclock, and don't mind imposing on others, who you ask to divert their time and resources to answer what will become an endless stream of questions. We've seen this pattern before.

Overclocking should never be approached in a haphazard manner. 4Ryan6 has given you the best advice you'll find anywhere, so please pay careful attention.

Back up your drive. Most people don't do backups, and only become believers after they lose all their data! Incremental backups are nice, but there's no substitute for a total system backup.

Study all the Core 2 Quad overclocking guides that you can find before you attempt to overclock again. Cross reference the different guides so you can understand what material is commonly emphasized. Google and your motherboard manual are your new best friends. Become as familiar as possible with all your BIOS settings. If you don't know, don't guess! Find out first.

Learn the basics, like how to isolate CPU overclock from Memory overclock from Northbridge overclock, so you can determine which components are stable ... and which are not. For example, if you understand "straps", then you can overclock your FSB while selecting Memory clock settings which are appropriate for your Value RAM (a critical step you skipped).

Good luck!

CT :sol:

Edit: I have unselected myself from the "Best Answer" and given it to 4Ryan6.
 
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Do you have any idea why I can't put the DRAM Frequency lower when on 1800 Mhz, I can't put it lower than it, or on Auto, otherwise my computer doesn't start up, and it says: Overclocking Failure.
 
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Zitheny,

With all due respect, we've already said all we're going to say. You need to read and study the overclocking guides for yourself. The answers are there. It's not our responsibility to be imposed upon as your personal overclocking tutors.

Hailing frequency closed.

CT :sol:
 
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