Nvidia GT 730 (low profile, 64-bit ddr3 version)...will it work in a SFF HP dc5800?

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Hello everyone! Say, I recently purchased a refurbished HP dc5800 SFF, and I would like to boost the graphics capability a bit. HP has their manuals online, and I was able to find out that I can have a max of 25w in the PCI express slot. Long story short, the EVGA GeForce GT 730 2GB GDDR3 64-bit DVI/HMDI/VGA Low Profile Graphics Card (02G-P3-1733-KR) has a listed TDP of 23 watts (this is with a bit of ID-ing based on the specs of the EVGA card and what the Nvidia GT 730 specs webpage shows). In addition, the EVGA site says that there is a need for a 300w power supply with a "minimum of 20 amps on the +12 volt rail".

So, I'm not so worried about the wattage (I've used a calculator and my estimated max usage is around 185 watts, and the psu is 240w), but I'm a bit more concerned about the amperage....I took a screenshot and although it is a bit difficult to read, it appears that the amperage is definitely below 20...

...does anyone happen to know (or even have real experience) if this particular version of the GT 730 will work with this refurbished HP dc5800 SFF?

Thanks in advance for any replies!

Jeff
 
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The gpus options that they have on the sff are higher tdp than the 730. It should be fine, but something like eufi only gpus can pose a problem.

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Thanks hang-the-9....do you think the GDDR5 will work? The wattage is a bit higher...EDIT: I also remember that the HP manual said max 25 watts in the PCI-E slot....is this another situation where a manual "plays it safe"?
 


I missed that part of your post, you did better research than me LOL

There are some motherboards that do go outside the max spec of the PICe slot, however without trying it it would be tough to say if that is a hard limit or not unless you talk to an engineer at HP. Just the reglar help would just tell you what's in the manual. The other option is to look around for a replacement power supply, even the small store bought systems have several models availabe that are an improvement. That of course is another $30-40 you are spending though. If you get the card from a place that will let you return it if it does not work in your system, try the GDDR5 version, it's quite a bit faster as it actually has a faster chip in it. Look up some comparisons of the two online, you'll see bit differece. If you just want to not take any chances, get the DDR3 version, that should run fine.
 

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Thanks a lot hang-the-9...as it turns out, the sff hp computers have an odd shaped power supply, however I have found some folks have "McGuyvered" a small power supply into those cases by drilling some different holes....I have also read that the hp motherboards for many of these computers have an unusual power pin receptacle, but I have not confirmed it yet....

Because this computer will be a "family computer" and used at most for light gaming (Minecraft without shaders [but likely some other mods] and perhaps Skyrim on Medium, oh yeah maybe some Crusader Kings II), I will go with the DDR3 fanless version GT 730 mentioned above....this dc5800 has only a core2 duo 2.8 ghz and 4 GB of DDR2, so it's not a real burner, lol. But it will work much better than what it is replacing (Compaq 6473SA with a pentium 4 2.something, 1 GB ram (and that is the max I can put on that board), and an old Radeon AGP card...state of the art in 2003!), and that's what I hoped to get for less than $200.....

Thanks!
 

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UPDATE: Got the DDR3 fanless (EVGA GeForce GT 730 2GB GDDR3 64-bit DVI/HMDI/VGA Low Profile Graphics Card (02G-P3-1733-KR)) and loaded it into the HP dc5800 SFF....works just fine! Now, I have only been running tests on it this evening, but everything seems AOK, no "brownouts" or other things...

If there is a change in status I will come back and report it (ha ha, check out my posts on the Smithfield Pentium D 805 overclocking thread...that computer was finally felled by a virus of all things)...

Thanks again for the help,

Jeff
 

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I'm having the very same issue with a Dell Optiplex 390. Power supply is 250 watt (Gold Rated) with 17.8 amps on the 12 V rail (in theory that's 213.6). The GPU is an i3-2120 3.3 ghz. According to Intel that's a 65 w processor. One HDD and one Optical Drive... New Egg wattage calculator says I'll only be using 182 Watts Load and recommends 232 Watts. BUT... Dell rates it's PCIe slot at 25 Watts.. even though one of their own techs told me it'd be OK to use that card. Since New Egg is great with returns I'm going to go for it and I'll let you know how it goes.
 

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I have a Dell Optiplex 390 DT and managed to upgrade the graphics card to a GT 730, 2GB, DDR5. There are a couple of reasons this shouldn't have worked and a couple of reasons it did me thinks. Reasons it shouldn't work ... Dell recommends only 25 watts on it's PCIe X 16 slot. EVGA recommends 300w min, 20 amps on the 12 V rail. My power supply is 250w, and the 12V rail states 17.8 amps. On a chat with Dell I was told this card would work, and if you do the calculations the card and other components are not pulling any more than about 220 watts. Power supply from Dell is rated Gold so that's another plus. Long and the short of it is you can upgrade the card. Seems to play Call of Pripyat, Diablo III, and even Skyrim, at 1920 x 1080 medium settings... looks pretty good.
 

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Hey there
I need a confirmation, I'm thinking about getting a GT 730 DDR3 and because my system is very similar to the DS5800, but mine is SFF 6000 hp, and then according to the PCI-E supports up to 35W, this card will stand a long time, which I need to know is whether it can last about four hours playing, and then have that processor because mine is c2d E7500