for gaming which cpu is best fx 6300 or i3 3220

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I want to upgrade my PC for gaming.After a long research i found some component in my budget
GPU - sapphire r9 270x boost oc 2GB ddr5
Psu- corsair VS550
Ram- corsair vengeance 8GB ram 1600 MHz

My old build is
CPU Pentium g620
GPU zotac gt630 2GB ddr3
Mobo-H61M DS2
Ram 2GB
PSU - intex classic450

If u suggest me AMD CPU then I have to buy a AM3+ Mobo . I have choose this... http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-78lmt-s2-motherboard/p/itmdhack3xs3qc96?pid=MBDDHACK3XS3QC96&otracker=search_6&pageNum=1&query=motherboard+
 
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Tea urchin - I'm not being a fanboy - I'm simply answering the question he originally asked.
As a new build (apart from bringing into the equation future upgradability) I honestly couldn't recommend that i3 over a 6300.
Single core performance is very similar - most new titles are multi threaded now ,farcry 4 & unity will use upto 8 cores & will perform better on the 6300
I agree entirely with your comment on a better CPU if he had that option - I'm in the UK & no doubt could pick up a used 2500 for a decent price within 48 hours.
BUT I've tried to price builds for people in India before,for such a massive continent component availability is shocking & the prices are sky high (think nearly double what you or I would pay especially on...
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I personally would pick the 6300 - Intel fanboys will no doubt drop in with comments about upgrade paths/dead end am3 sockets etc but plain & simple its a better chip than that low end i3 IMO.
It will pair very well with that 270x.

Assuming you need a matx board - the choice above is weak & there isn't much choice in the matx range.
Could you spend a little more & go for this
http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-78lmt-usb3-motherboard/p/itmdeg8jwxzjap4f?pid=MBDDEG8JWXZJAP4F&otracker=search_2&pageNum=1&query=am3

Its a far far better board for a little extra.
 
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Well thanks ... This mobo is in my budget.... Can u tell me how much fps should I get on high-ultra settings in assassin creed unity ,ryse son of Rome,far cry4 like games on 1366*768 res.......?
 
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Tea urchin - I'm not being a fanboy - I'm simply answering the question he originally asked.
As a new build (apart from bringing into the equation future upgradability) I honestly couldn't recommend that i3 over a 6300.
Single core performance is very similar - most new titles are multi threaded now ,farcry 4 & unity will use upto 8 cores & will perform better on the 6300
I agree entirely with your comment on a better CPU if he had that option - I'm in the UK & no doubt could pick up a used 2500 for a decent price within 48 hours.
BUT I've tried to price builds for people in India before,for such a massive continent component availability is shocking & the prices are sky high (think nearly double what you or I would pay especially on the GPU front)

Arfiavenger - at that res high settings at least will be eminently playable.unity & farcry 4 are bad exsmples though with poor optimisation at the moment.
You'll have a solid budget gaming rig with those components - its not really going to struggle with anything at high/ultra depending on the game unless you ever upgrade to 1080p (in which case medium settings would be much more likely)
 
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Lol, no. No. No. AC unity runs horrible on AMD cpu's. The "low end" i3 3220 performs about as well as a fx 9590. No matter how many cores will be used, the fx series simply has awfully low ipc and horrible single core performance, which both are requested in games.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Assassins-Creed-Unity-PC-258436/News/Benchmarks-GPU-CPU-AMD-Nvidia-Intel-1142535/galerie/2290871/

As a side note, an i5 3450 goes for 11k on flipkart:
http://www.flipkart.com/intel-3-1-ghz-lga-1155-core-i5-3450-processor/p/itmd99wtstx3qkhf?pid=PSRD99WSF7Z9FJRD&otracker=from-search&srno=t_2&query=i5&ref=6f21be9f-6ef4-4508-9d20-9610429e6170
While a fx 6300 goes for 7k plus 5k+ for a motherboard (I'll not take 78 boards going for 4k into account) which totals in 12k.
http://www.flipkart.com/amd-3-5-am3-fx-6-core-fx-6300-fd6300wmhkbox-processor/p/itmdz2whghfbfxnw?pid=PSRDHYYVZJVED3DR&otracker=from-search&srno=p_1&query=fx+6300&ref=cf9333a7-cd6d-4e73-8ab6-e110695158f0
http://www.flipkart.com/msi-970a-g43-motherboard/p/itmdh4faehjbgw5t?pid=MBDDH4FAEHJBGW5T&otracker=from-search&srno=t_10&query=am3%2B&ref=d4c65261-f4a2-4d67-a5d9-625ebcf5662f
(The cheapest 970 board there is).

Honestly, already owning a h61 board, going with amd is simply stupid and doesn't make the slighest sense. An i3 equals or beats a 6300 fx in games, an i5 demolishes it. Plus, you still have the upgrade path to an i7 3700 if you ever feel like. With the am3+ socket you're stuck on the fx cpu's. The best you could upgrade to would be an 8320 unless paying 15k rs on a 990fx motherboard that could run an oc'ed 8320 or 9590.
 
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^ unity doesn't run badly on fx CPU's at all - you're confusing the issue with amd gpu's for which its poorly optimised.
I'm running it at 50fps frame locked with a 6300 & a gtx 970 - there's no CPU bottneck at all - CPU at 60-70%,GPU usage constant 99% (this is not because its amazing graphically but because even with a 970 the optimisation is poor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkBO5AvvaVA

Looks fairly decent to me & the 270x is a stronger card than the 660 - the freezing issue (which was down to poor optimisation has been sorted in the latest patch)
 
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It comes down to personal preference + the fact that the upgrade path from an Intel build will allow you in the future to fit a i5/i7.
The amd builds only upgrade path is to a comparable 8 core chip which will gain no performance boost unless a game is optimised for all 8 cores.
If you're thinking about only the here and now I personally consider the fx6300 to be a better CPU than a low end i3 for gaming.
Single Core performance is similar (the i3 may win by 5-10% ) what this relates to in gaming is literally 2-3fps.
If a game like battlefield 4 or farcry 4 which can optimise up to 6 cores when required is bought into equation the amd chip instantly becomes the better performer.
A lot of games now are becoming more optimised for multi core performance which makes the 6300 a more sensible choice to me IF you have no plans in the next 2 to 3 years to upgrade again.
With a 270x performance difference between the 2 CPU's becomes irrelevant - both the i3 & 6300 will happily run upto a r9 280x or gtx 770 with literally no bottlenecking. Which makes the 270x the weakest link for either option ( not that its a bad card - its a fairly solid medium/high setting mid ranger - more high/ultra at your monitor resolution & I don't think you'll be disappointed)
 
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No, no, no, no, no.

A fx 6300 will not all of a sudden perform better than an i3. Fx 6300 is lower end than i3 ivy or sandy. The single core performance is NOT similar, how do you even get that idea? The difference in single core performance is around 20-30%. Just as the fx 6300's multi thread performance is about 20-30% better. But not in gaming, even if games would use 1000 cores, due to directx 11 restrictions (main thread) and heavy reliance on quick processing of short data, the fx 6300 will not perform as well as an i3. Mostly not even as good as a pentium g3220.

However, true is that both cpu's will handle a r9 270x. Anything higher than that, there will be differences in performance, though.
 
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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/piledriver-k10-cpu-overclocking,review-32759-19.html

6350 vs i3 3225 - a relatively decent comparison to a 6300 vs a 3220 gaming benchmarks which is what were talking about here.
The 6350 on average is scoring higher,not a lot granted, than the i3.
Single threaded passmark & cinebench scores are not a good benchmark for a general gaming build IMO.
That i3 would most definitely NOT keep up with a 9590 - not in single thread benches or multithread - I'm not a fan on the 9*** series chips - they're frankly ridiculous but they'd eat an i3 alive.
I have nothing against Intel - own an i5 laptop & an i5 lenovo tinypc - I wouldn't have them any other way & I am a big fan of the older 3570k & the i5 haswells BUT at the bottom end of the chain the 6300 would get my things up every time - always has & always willvbe the ultimate budget gaming chip.
I'll say again the pentium G's while decent will struggle with new titles as will the i3 in a year or so.most new titles have no problem making use of 4 cores or more ,while the i3s hyperthreading is good in practice its not going to match 6 genuine cores.

An i5 3450 would be tempting Ill admit - although at a guess he's selling that old system complete with replacing near everything.

You guys are putting the 6300 down a little too much though & relying on single threaded benchmark scores - if you actually use a amd system with a 6300 in I honestly think you'd be pleasantly surprised - its a far far better chip than your giving it credit for.
 
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^ don't need to mate - I'm running it at 50fps locked stable myself on a 6300 (4ghz) & a gtx 970
Max settings apart from a couple of options - no frame dips at all ,no freezing ,absolutely rock solid framerate.
CPU usage around 70% on all cores ,GPU usage is stuck at literally 99% constant because itvhas piss poor optimisation even with a card as powerful as the 970.
 
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