3D Workstation build help.

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Hi everyone,

Im so close to build my 3d workstation, and i looking for some else who really get a good advice about my shopping list, and i am really open to heard anything.

Shopping list

At first I saw this motherboard Asus and look very well. but i not sure about how choose the best one.... (tyan,supermicro,asus?)

The CPU for sure will be opteron 6338P (12 core ) I cant pay for Xeons. I dont know...

The main purpose of the computer will be 3d work Maya Realflow Nuke. As i know for render purpose more core more faster..

The budget is around $2000 without monitor...

Any advice or comment is really appreciated
lv.
 
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Based off what he said and wanting to work in Maya, on the cheap I would go with the above setup. I like the things anandthech does but when looking at X series CPU's why spend the $1000 price tag when in a workstation with the right GPU for animation and modeling a Xeon works better. But in reality for the budget he has even a baseline workstation is out of his reach.

This is a starter full workstation (no gaming)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4BjLjX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4BjLjX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2650 V2 2.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z9PE-D8 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU...

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Hello, I hate to bring bad news but the parts you have selected are over 2700 and this is due to AMD CPU needing 2 banks of memory, 1 bank for each CPU so you have to double the RAM.

I can inform you about an Intel system that will be the closest to 2000, but it is still over by a little bit. My personal opinion is to go this route, it is like my system just scaled back but you will still be able to do allot of work with it.

Just a few things...

There is a reason for the 3 hard drives... The small 128 is just the OS drive/driver drive and nothing else. the 256 is the programs drive, do not save data on the drive. The 1tb drive is all data saves.

32gb RAM will be your friend with animation and modeling.

Intel base is a very good CPU for editing and for the money this is a very nice pick.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xW7yyc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xW7yyc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-1650 V3 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($561.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($206.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290X 4GB DirectCU II Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $2254.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-02 01:43 EST-0500

You can get better but it will just cost more.
 
For 2K without a monitor, I'd get

CPUs - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/5

Intel leaves AMD way behind.

If you want number crunching, why not a cad gpu? eg Quadro eg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008333&IsNodeId=1&Description=nvidia%20quadro%20graphics%20cards&name=Workstation%20Graphics%20Cards&Order=PRICED&Pagesize=30&isdeptsrh=1

That's why you need the system requirements for the software packages that you want to use.
 

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Based off what he said and wanting to work in Maya, on the cheap I would go with the above setup. I like the things anandthech does but when looking at X series CPU's why spend the $1000 price tag when in a workstation with the right GPU for animation and modeling a Xeon works better. But in reality for the budget he has even a baseline workstation is out of his reach.

This is a starter full workstation (no gaming)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4BjLjX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4BjLjX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2650 V2 2.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z9PE-D8 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011 Motherboard ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($777.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($166.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY Quadro 6000 6GB Video Card ($1102.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.95 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit) ($170.99 @ Adorama)

Total: $4465.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-02 11:32 EST-0500

This setup is double what he can afford so the first setup is drawing on the same lines as a base workstation. With that being said if he ever wanted to move into the more friendly FirePro's or Quadro's he has the setup configured so that the transition is easy. As long as there is no OC the Xeon E5-1650 V3 will give the power desired to push 3d modeling with the Asus Radeon R9 290X, but I will not say it will be completely fluid in all aspects. There are some areas where only dedicated rendering cards will accelerate over the 290X. Hence there is always the option to upgrade with a workstation GPU.

The RAM is needed is vast quantity due to 90% of people who work in modeling want to have more than 1 program running so they can switch back and forth. I have 5-7 running at any given time. I switch between Adobe, AutoDesk and others while I work. It makes the working conditions far more efficient.

Running 3 separate drives to me is essential as to keep the system running at optimum performance. Keeping all 3 levels separate OS, programs and DATA gives a fluid movement and less lag between programs and data saves. Preference with workstations is running with 10K or SCSI 15K drives due to the reliability, rewrite and DATA movement.

Just to put 3d modeling into perspective when it comes to animation, I got to use a machine at ILM that was a used for skin, hair and water effects and that machine was around $30,000. You can do the same work with a $2000 machine it just takes WAY longer to render.

Again I base all of this off of Maya, 3DMax, SoftImage, AutoDesk and Adobe and how I have used the programs over the years. If there is a better way then awesome, I only know the systems that I have used over the years that have worked for me and other designers I know.

I think i7Baby has a big point in not knowing the requirements of a system needs all are just shots in the wind till one hits. But I can assume (which makes an ass out of me and u) that in working with 3d modeling with Maya, you might be doing animation and the use of AutoDesk at times. In doing so does require more than the typical system. I spent around $5800 for my workstation to work in Adobe, AutoDesk, Maya, SoftImage, 3dMax and a few other programs. Even with the money I dumped into my system, it still slows down with the rendering at times.

That's my $.02

Peace
 
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visualjobs

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There is the sys req. for both maya and realflow. i think i7baby has the point.

http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/maya/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Maya-2015.html

http://support.nextlimit.com/display/rf2013docs/System+Requirements

The things for Amencerment: i forgot say someting. i will use FEDORA 14. i dont care about ( adobe softwares i have a mac doing that job ), i thinking have that computer only for simulations and of course modeling texturing and the bigone -- Rendering --.


I heard a lot the rendering process use to be CPU power more than GPU (except furryball and others) but the main rendering will be arnold / mentalray

The render (arnold will use all cpu aviable) read - Scalability - https://www.solidangle.com/arnold/features/

And I want to say i not a big modeler or textured. but i do a fluidfxs and compositing and i looking a machine who have power to make my simulation time shorter.

I choose opteron because I can have more cores, (less clock speed) but more cores helping to process a render or a simulation. But as you can see i not the best one choosing the hardware, and i dont have experience on that.

Maybe Xeons will be more faster although have less cores processing the same image or same simulation...


After Read the Sys req. i think a good video card will be better some like quadro K4000 or K2000 but for motherboard and CPU i really feel random.


I choose your recommendation *(pcpartpicker) and make some modification to make more affordable to me, and after the edit i choose change

RAM 64 gb for 32 gb of ram

vcard from q6000 to k2000

and.. remove win and the extras harddrive (i have a extra hd 1.5tb here and i can use); and there is my new config.

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PZTNWZ) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PZTNWZ/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Xeon E5-2650 V2 2.6GHz 8-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80635e52650v2) | $999.95 @ Amazon
**CPU Cooler** | [Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu12s) | $61.99 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [Asus Z9PE-D8 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z9ped8ws) | $499.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmy32gx3m4a1866c9) | $349.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Samsung 850 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7ke128bw) | $99.99 @ NCIX US
**Video Card** | [HP Quadro K2000 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/hp-video-card-c2j93aa) | $411.59 @ Amazon
**Case** | [Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-phes614pwt) | $99.99 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-platinum1000) | $219.99 @ Amazon
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $2743.48
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-02 16:25 EST-0500 |


What i love of this conf. is: in some month i can buy a extra CPU and Extra Memory an VOILA! i will have more power.

any advice? I am on the right way?
Just for curious: Any opteron experience? and: 32 cores on opteron is equal to 16 cores Xeon with HT ? not overclocked or any thing like that..

thanks!
lv.

 
The Quadro K2000 - http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/data-sheet/DS_NV_Quadro_K2000_OCT13_NV_US_LR.pdf - only uses 51W. You could use a 500W Power Supply eg Seasonic M12II 52 ($67 at Newegg)

I don't think you need to spend that much on a CPU.

Neither software packages advocate so much CPU or RAM.

One 8core intel is way more than enough. In fact I'd recommend just the 4 core i7 4790k with hyperthreading (total core cores). As my link shows, it keeps up with the more expensive 8 core CPUs.

You only need 32gb ram if you want to store large files in ram. What is the largest file size you'd be using?
 

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