A gaming pc for under $580 that can run Arma 3 or DayZ acceptably

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

I'm a first time pc gamer and am looking into. PC's to play military simulators, I've built one but can you all suggest one?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ReaperFFD/saved/#savedbuild_1761994

That's the one I built, please upgrade it to make it better or suggest your own, thanks!

rockie_ · Dec 8, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($97.27 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Total: $564.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 14:07 EST-0500

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($97.27 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Total: $537.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 14:09 EST-0500

ferwindjacks · Dec 8, 2014

For ~600 dollars, you cannot build a computer that will get acceptable frame rates on Arma 3 (or 2) or DayZ. Arma 3 is one of the hardest games to run, and DayZ is so poorly optimized that even people with the best rigs get somewhere around 20fps in large towns.

My advice? Save up or ask for specific parts for Christmas. I'd say at least 900 or 1000 dollars for either game to play 'acceptably' and even then, it won't be 60fps.

I refer to Arma 2/3 multiplayer, as when you are in multiplayer your frames drop a lot. A server of 40 people or more can drop my frames down to the 20s and I have an i7 4770k and 970.

Be advised, these games are CPU intensive, more so than GPU intensive.

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

ferwindjacks :

For ~600 dollars, you cannot build a computer that will get acceptable frame rates on Arma 3 (or 2) or DayZ. Arma 3 is one of the hardest games to run, and DayZ is so poorly optimized that even people with the best rigs get somewhere around 20fps in large towns.

My advice? Save up or ask for specific parts for Christmas. I'd say at least 900 or 1000 dollars for either game to play 'acceptably' and even then, it won't be 60fps.

I refer to Arma 2/3 multiplayer, as when you are in multiplayer your frames drop a lot. A server of 40 people or more can drop my frames down to the 20s and I have an i7 4770k and 970.

Be advised, these games are CPU intensive, more so than GPU intensive.

What about skyrim? Can you show a build for that?

rockie_ · Dec 8, 2014

Both rigs can run Arma III and any other game

@ShdowFFD
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ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

rockie_ :

Are you absolutely sure they can? Proof, just need to be sure haha

ferwindjacks · Dec 8, 2014

Oh yeah. My 7 year old HP laptop can run both games. It wouldn't be a very good time though!

The fact of the matter is, you can't build a computer that is less than, I'd say, 900 dollars and expect greatness.

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

ferwindjacks :

People have done it before haha, just depends on what your willing to look for

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

rockie_ :

Can you provide a page that shows this? I can't find one?

ferwindjacks · Dec 8, 2014

I mean, if you're into unplayable frames then that's cool. Obviously you'll be able to play some games acceptably on low-mid with a 600 dollar build, but certainly not such intensive games like Arma 3 and DayZ.

I'll put time into putting together a build if you are down to raise your budget. I understand not everyone can afford monstrous comps but you will be much happier if you save up for a better one.

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

ferwindjacks :

I'm just impatient haha, I might keep saving up but I'm going to exhaust all my options if possible xD

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

ferwindjacks :

Show me your build, you've peaked my interests, show me whatcha got

ferwindjacks · Dec 8, 2014

Give me an estimate on how much you're willing to save.

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

ferwindjacks :

Would 850$ be enough? For a good one?

ferwindjacks · Dec 8, 2014

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VH9mWZ
Quick draw up. The 960 is supposed to be coming out soon, I'd say its worth it to wait for that. Expect an early Q1 release, I doubt it will be this month considering no one has heard anything about it.

rockie_ · Dec 8, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($326.99 @ Directron)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $789.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 16:42 EST-0500

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.78 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($339.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $839.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 16:36 EST-0500

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

Rockie, could you make one around 680-720 for me? Let's see that

ferwindjacks · Dec 8, 2014

Personally don't like ASRock/Giga/MSI, but hell that second build that rockie posted would be exactly what you want for the sub 1k mark.

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

Do you think so? I'd be nice to get a better one cheaper haha

rockie_ · Dec 8, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($97.27 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($326.99 @ Directron)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $698.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 17:48 EST-0500

ferwindjacks · Dec 8, 2014

For Arma 3 and DayZ, the games are way more CPU heavy than GPU heavy. If you are going to mainly be playing those games, I recommend a step up to an i5 and a downgrade from the 970, if you want to keep it in the 700 mark.

rockie_ · Dec 8, 2014

i3 4150 is a good CPU . Many i3 beat FX 8350 and on average are equal to it . Asrock make good motherboards . Just you must know what to pick . Any board of any brand at $50 cant be the best .

e.g.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/best-intel-amd-motherboard,review-33054.html

ShdowFFD · Dec 8, 2014

rockie_ :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($97.27 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($326.99 @ Directron)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $698.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 17:48 EST-0500

Looks great thanks bro

frag06 · Dec 8, 2014

Arma 3 only uses two threads, so better single core performance is more important than number of cores. If you have an i3 and a ~270, you can usually max out the game or run high settings without issue, but the game is horribly optimized and issues can crop up.

rockie_ · Dec 8, 2014

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($168.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $689.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 18:09 EST-0500

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