Can i run WoW on ultra? Budget >600

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

Hey yall! Im looking to buy a budget gaming pc around >600 dollars US! I have picked out a PC but i would love some advice considering I have never built a PC before. I love computers and i want to work with them in the future so i should probably get to learning this! For the build, i will also need an OS preferably win7! Here is the link to my build, any and all advice is welcome!
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VN2vmG
P.S. I will be playing WoW LoL and maybe a bit of minecraft here and there! I stream LoL and i would like 30FPS ultra and 60FPS high on WoW. Idk if thats possible with my budget but lets give it a shot! If you guys could lower the price and keep my requests possible, even better! Thanks for your guys' help and Happy Holidays!

bob hays · Dec 12, 2014

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G8y6mG

I got the same video card for cheaper which gave room to upgrade the pentium to an i3 (basically free upgrade to an i3).

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

bob hays :

Thats the same video card?

bob hays · Dec 12, 2014

Its the same processor, it just has a different cooler and different board. The performance will be very similar.

i7Baby · Dec 12, 2014

WoW - http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=2956&game=World%20of%20Warcraft:%20Mists%20of%20Pandaria

shouldn't be too hard

Slightly better components but $60 more -
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $645.69

Bezzell · Dec 12, 2014

You can overclock the g3258 to outperform an i3.

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

Bezzell :

Thats what i was thinking!

i7Baby · Dec 12, 2014

That's why I got a cooler and a z97 mobo.

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

i7Baby :

WoW - http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=2956&game=World%20of%20Warcraft:%20Mists%20of%20Pandaria

shouldn't be too hard

Slightly better components but $60 more -
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $645.69

Not to sound rude but the whole point of this was to keep it under 600 dollars.

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

From what ive heard you can overclock the pentium with the stock cooler? I dont want to clock up to 4.8 but ive heard 4 or even 4.2 would be fine to run my requests?

bob hays · Dec 12, 2014

If you are going to OC the pentium then I'll just replace the i3 and here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XwHPYJ

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

bob hays :

Id be interested to hear more about this card? What are the differences between the one i picked and this powercolor one?

Bezzell · Dec 12, 2014

Upgrade to r9 280.

CPU Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core $64.29
Motherboard ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 $81.98
Memory Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $59.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $52.99
Video Card Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB DUAL-X $199.99
Case Antec VSK-3000 MicroATX Mid Tower $24.99
Power Supply EVGA 500W ATX12V / EPS12V $39.99
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $90.26

Total: $614.48

bob hays · Dec 12, 2014

LightTheNight :

It's just that 2 companies made the card. It's like having 2 different motherboard with the same cpu. They will both perform the same they just have different outputs and cooling solutions, and power delivery which makes a difference in overclocking but they are both good so you will be fine with either one. The powercolor one is cheaper which is why I chose that one.

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

bob hays :

LightTheNight :

It's just that 2 companies made the card. It's like having 2 different motherboard with the same cpu. They will both perform the same they just have different outputs and cooling solutions, and power delivery which makes a difference in overclocking but they are both good so you will be fine with either one. The powercolor one is cheaper which is why I chose that one.

Just read a whole bunch of reviews that say its DoA with bad drivers and such, true information or no?

i7Baby · Dec 12, 2014

You should get a z97 mobo and a custom cooler to OC the CPU.

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

i7Baby :

Whys that? Is it needed?

bob hays · Dec 12, 2014

I recommend sticking with the stock cooler. If you feel like you want to squeeze some extra performance than get an aftermarket one, but start off with stock. You might also be able to use h series boards to overclock, they might have changed that though but I know you could have.

i7Baby · Dec 12, 2014

LightTheNight · Dec 12, 2014

bob hays :

Do you think its safer to stay with the twin frozen ones? Ive read and watched such good things about it. Also, do you think the original PC i posted will run my requests?

Bezzell · Dec 12, 2014

LightTheNight :

Nope. You do not need a z97 board to overclock. Can get the same overclocks on these. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389948

i7Baby · Dec 12, 2014

But not near as good as on a z97 mobo which is made for OCing the CPU. Plus you also need to do bios reconfigs on non Z97 mobos.

See http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-cheap-overclocking,3888.html
that's why they used a z97 mobo.

Bezzell · Dec 12, 2014

Yeah, if you notice, at the end, they tell you if you're on a budget they recommend the H81. And the board he's selected needs no bios update to overclock. It kicks ass right out of the box.

bob hays · Dec 12, 2014

I still suggest H series and stock cooler. If you look at his anandtech post every pentium got to 4 ghz except one but even that one was at 3.8. Many were in the 4.3-4.5 ghz range which is good. This is why he should try out stock cooler first then add an aftermarket one later if he wants to, and the h series boards seem to work just fine.

i7Baby · Dec 12, 2014

They don't recommend it. They say you can use it. Buit its more fiddling around trying to get the bios mod. Then it doesn't OC as well as a Z97.

That's why I recommend the Z97 Anniversary mobo - its cheap but made especially for using with the anniversary pentium.

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